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A CMO Confidential Interview with Peri Hansen, Leader CMO Practice and Sector Leader Consumer Products at Korn Ferry. Peri discusses why she thinks it's the most important and exciting time to be a CMO, how marketers need to "connect" sales, IT and other functions with their go-to-market strategy and why "marketing structure" is a hot board issue. Key topics include: why people development is more important than ever; why there are so few marketers on boards; how careers benefit from constantly leaving your comfort zone; and the difference between enterprise and marketing thinking. Tune in to hear about candidate faux pas including not eating at the restaurant chain before the interview.

Join us on CMO Confidential with Mike Linton as we uncover "The CMO's Secret Weapon: Are You Missing It?" This episode dives deep into the evolving role of the Chief Marketing Officer, featuring insights from Peri Hansen, a top executive search expert from Korn Ferry with over 25 years of experience. Tune in to hear Peri perspective on the CMO as the connective tissue within an organization—linking sales, strategy, operations, and finance into a cohesive corporate strategy.

Key topics include:

- The transformative power and increased influence of the CMO role in modern enterprises.

- Essential skills and experiences that make a successful CMO.

- Insights into holistic and enterprise thinking for marketing leaders.

- The importance of cross-functional collaboration and financial fluency.

- Strategies for upskilling and talent development within marketing teams.

Peri also shares her expertise on the importance of effective vendor management and the current job market trends for marketing executives. Whether you are an aspiring CMO or a seasoned marketing professional, this episode is packed with valuable advice and real-world examples.

Subscribe to the CMO Confidential channel for more exclusive content and stay ahead in the dynamic world of marketing leadership. Don't miss out on these expert insights—your future as a CMO could depend on it!

#CareerAdvice #CmoJob #MarketingPodcast #Marketing #MikeLinton

CHAPTERS:

00:00 - Intro

00:40 - The CMO as Connective Tissue

05:24 - Holistic Thinking

07:41 - Marketing Structure

11:05 - Upskilling Talent Development and Change Management

13:39 - Job Market

20:16 - How to get to the C-Suite

23:20 - How to judge your career

25:30 - Last question: Funniest story or a piece of advice we haven’t discussed

28:55 - OUTRO

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This episode is brought to you by CMO Confidential Title Sponsor Props. Visit them at Props.co

A CMO Confidential Interview with Peri Hansen, Leader CMO Practice and Sector Leader Consumer Products at Korn Ferry. Peri discusses why she thinks it's the most important and exciting time to be a CMO, how marketers need to "connect" sales, IT and other functions with their go-to-market strategy and why "marketing structure" is a hot board issue. Key topics include: why people development is more important than ever; why there are so few marketers on boards; how careers benefit from constantly leaving your comfort zone; and the difference between enterprise and marketing thinking. Tune in to hear about candidate faux pas including not eating at the restaurant chain before the interview.

Join us on CMO Confidential with Mike Linton as we uncover "The CMO's Secret Weapon: Are You Missing It?" This episode dives deep into the evolving role of the Chief Marketing Officer, featuring insights from Peri Hansen, a top executive search expert from Korn Ferry with over 25 years of experience. Tune in to hear Peri perspective on the CMO as the connective tissue within an organization—linking sales, strategy, operations, and finance into a cohesive corporate strategy.

Key topics include:

- The transformative power and increased influence of the CMO role in modern enterprises.

- Essential skills and experiences that make a successful CMO.

- Insights into holistic and enterprise thinking for marketing leaders.

- The importance of cross-functional collaboration and financial fluency.

- Strategies for upskilling and talent development within marketing teams.

Peri also shares her expertise on the importance of effective vendor management and the current job market trends for marketing executives. Whether you are an aspiring CMO or a seasoned marketing professional, this episode is packed with valuable advice and real-world examples.

Subscribe to the CMO Confidential channel for more exclusive content and stay ahead in the dynamic world of marketing leadership. Don't miss out on these expert insights—your future as a CMO could depend on it!

#CareerAdvice #CmoJob #MarketingPodcast #Marketing #MikeLinton

CHAPTERS:

00:00 - Intro

00:40 - The CMO as Connective Tissue

05:24 - Holistic Thinking

07:41 - Marketing Structure

11:05 - Upskilling Talent Development and Change Management

13:39 - Job Market

20:16 - How to get to the C-Suite

23:20 - How to judge your career

25:30 - Last question: Funniest story or a piece of advice we haven’t discussed

28:55 - OUTRO

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Welcome back for Part 2 of A CMO Confidential Interview with Gary Briggs, former CMO of Facebook and eBay, and board member at Etsy, Petco & Combe. As the Paid Media Advisor to the Harris campaign, Gary shares the inside story of what it is like to work at breakneck speed in the rapid spin up of a political organization and all of the marketing that goes with it. Key discussion points include: a look at the billions spent in 18% of the country; what it's like to make tens of thousands of creative assets at speed; why all of the marketing, public relations, social media and news organizations function as a "single thing" for consumers; and the extreme segmentation and personalized messaging that accompanies "the voter file." Tune in to hear if working on a political campaign is right for your career and why campaigns error on the side of "more is more." Get an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at the 2024 presidential campaign marketing with "Inside 2024 Campaign Marketing Secrets 🚨." In this episode of CMO Confidential, five-time CMO and host Mike Linton welcomes marketing veteran Gary Briggs to discuss the incredible scope, rapid scaling, and strategic decision-making behind political campaigns. Gary, former marketing leader for Facebook, PayPal, and eBay, shares his hands-on experience working on the Biden-Harris and Harris-Walz campaigns and reveals the strategies that shaped the election’s outcome. Key topics include the unprecedented $10 billion in campaign spending, the role of targeted paid media, and crafting a winning messaging strategy under intense time and budget constraints. Tune in to hear expert insights on voter analytics, game theory in political advertising, and the challenges of operating at a scale unmatched in the corporate world. Discover what it takes to build and dismantle a billion-dollar marketing operation in months and how these lessons apply to any high-stakes business environment. Don't miss this opportunity to learn from top marketing minds! Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for exclusive content, and stay tuned for part two of this fascinating conversation. #facebookads #emailmarketing ##digitalmarketing CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Adobe Summit 00:41 - Introduction to the Summit 01:24 - Overview of the 2020 Election 02:28 - Marketing Strategies in Elections 05:33 - Gary's Involvement in the Election 09:42 - Understanding the Voter File 11:42 - Biden Campaign's Data Resource Allocation 13:33 - Media Strategies of the Biden Campaign 19:15 - Scale of Biden's Media Operations 22:15 - Effective Messaging Techniques 24:32 - Consequences of Losing 25:29 - Register for Adobe Summit See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
A CMO Confidential Interview with Gary Briggs, former CMO of Facebook and eBay, and board member at Etsy, Petco & Combe. As the Paid Media Advisor to the Harris campaign, Gary shares the inside story of what it is like to work at breakneck speed in the rapid spin up of a political organization and all of the marketing that goes with it. Key discussion points include: a look at the billions spent in 18% of the country; what it's like to make tens of thousands of creative assets at speed; why all of the marketing, public relations, social media and news organizations function as a "single thing" for consumers; and the extreme segmentation and personalized messaging that accompanies "the voter file." Tune in to hear if working on a political campaign is right for your career and why campaigns error on the side of "more is more." For more information on @Adobe Summit visit https://summit.adobe.com/cmoconfidential Get an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at the 2024 presidential campaign marketing with "Inside 2024 Campaign Marketing Secrets 🚨." In this episode of CMO Confidential, five-time CMO and host Mike Linton welcomes marketing veteran Gary Briggs to discuss the incredible scope, rapid scaling, and strategic decision-making behind political campaigns. Gary, former marketing leader for Facebook, PayPal, and eBay, shares his hands-on experience working on the Biden-Harris campaign and reveals the strategies that shaped the election’s outcome. Key topics include the unprecedented $10 billion in campaign spending, the role of targeted paid media, and crafting a winning messaging strategy under intense time and budget constraints. Tune in to hear expert insights on voter analytics, game theory in political advertising, and the challenges of operating at a scale unmatched in the corporate world. Discover what it takes to build and dismantle a billion-dollar marketing operation in months and how these lessons apply to any high-stakes business environment. Don't miss this opportunity to learn from top marketing minds! Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for exclusive content, and stay tuned for part two of this fascinating conversation. #hubspot #facebookads #emailmarketing #hubspotmarketing #digitalmarketing CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Adobe Summit 00:41 - Introduction to the Summit 01:24 - Overview of the 2020 Election 02:28 - Marketing Strategies in Elections 05:33 - Gary's Involvement in the Election 09:42 - Understanding the Voter File 11:42 - Biden Campaign's Data Resource Allocation 13:33 - Media Strategies of the Biden Campaign 19:15 - Scale of Biden's Media Operations 22:15 - Effective Messaging Techniques 24:32 - Consequences of Losing 25:29 - Register for Adobe Summit See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
A CMO Confidential Interview with Gabrielle Kessler, SVP Brand Experience at @wearesocial + Narrative, and experienced agency executive. Gabrielle discusses why experiential marketing should be part of an integrated plan versus a stand alone stunt, the value of delivering an emotional memory, and how experiential can reach "ad blind" customers. Key topics include: why marketers should start with objectives and targets versus a "tactic" they see in the marketplace; setting realistic expectations; and how experiential marketing can serve as an "amplifier." Tune in to learn about an"anamorphic" promotion and a story on Ryan Reynolds toilet seat covers at Comic-Con. For more information on @Adobe Summit visit https://summit.adobe.com/cmoconfidential Unlock the secrets of experiential marketing in this episode of CMO Confidential! Join experienced host and five-time CMO, Mike Linden, as he sits down with Gabrielle Kessler, SVP of Brand Experience and Production at We Are Social and Narrative, to explore the strategies and insights every CMO needs to know. With a career spanning leadership roles at Best Buy, eBay, and Farmers Insurance, Mike guides this engaging conversation, offering unparalleled perspectives on marketing’s most dynamic trends. Key topics include defining experiential marketing, its role in driving emotional connections with consumers, and how brands like Game of Thrones and Adidas have leveraged immersive experiences to amplify their reach. Gabrielle also shares practical tips on integrating experiential tactics into broader marketing strategies, avoiding common pitfalls, and using AI to personalize and elevate brand experiences. Whether you're a seasoned marketer or just starting, you’ll gain actionable advice to drive engagement and build loyalty. Tune in to hear real-world examples, humorous anecdotes, and expert recommendations on making experiential marketing work for your brand. Don’t miss out on this masterclass in innovative marketing strategies. Subscribe to CMO Confidential and stay ahead in the ever-evolving marketing landscape. For more exclusive insights and episodes, follow us on your favorite podcast platform. #influencermarketing #b2bmarketing #digitalmarketing #experientialmarketingagency #immersivebranding CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:17 - What is Experiential Marketing? 07:15 - Experiential Marketing in the Marketing Mix 09:58 - Measuring Impact of Experiential Marketing 13:07 - Ideal Brands for Experiential Marketing 16:01 - Successful Small Business Examples 18:10 - Signs of Potential Failure in Experiential Marketing 20:00 - Common Mistakes in Experiential Marketing 23:16 - AI in Marketing 27:04 - Final Questions 30:55 - @Adobe Summit Insights See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
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A CMO Confidential Interview with Dr. Dan McCarthy, Professor of Marketing at Maryland. Dan returns for the third time to share research on the food delivery business and how marketers can "bend the growth curve" by implementing a subscription model. He discusses the engineering behind various subscription models and why most marketers should "at least" consider these programs. Key topics include: the difference between "promiscuous" and "heavy" buyers; balancing the "give versus the get," and how AI may drive the implementation of more models. Tune in to hear why charging for membership is a good idea. Are subscription models the future of business growth? 📦 In this episode of CMO Confidential, former CMO Mike Linton sits down with Dr. Dan McCarthy, a renowned marketing expert, tenured professor at the University of Maryland, and co-founder of Theta Equity Partners, to uncover "The Truth About Subscription Models." Tune in to hear how subscription programs like DoorDash’s DashPass and Postmates are reshaping customer behavior, boosting customer lifetime value (CLTV), and driving competitive advantages in today’s market. Key topics include: - The fundamentals of customer lifetime value (CLTV) and its role in subscription success. - Insights from Dr. McCarthy's groundbreaking research on the impact of subscription models on market share and consumer loyalty. - How high-frequency customers, competitive dynamics, and strategic design affect subscription profitability. - The surprising effects of subscription models on competitors and adjacent industries like grocery and dining. - Practical advice for businesses considering implementing a subscription model. Whether you're a marketer, advertiser, or business leader, this episode offers actionable insights into how subscription models can bend the curve of customer retention and profitability. Learn how AI and evolving consumer behavior are shaping marketing strategies in this dynamic space. Subscribe to CMO Confidential for more expert insights, and stay tuned for future episodes featuring in-depth discussions on marketing strategies, leadership, and industry trends. Don’t forget to like, comment, and share to keep the conversation going! #growthhacking #digitalmarketing #conversionrateoptimization #marketinganalytics #customerretention CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:14 - Dan McCarthy Insights 02:38 - Customer Lifetime Value (CLTV) 05:59 - Food Delivery Trends 09:28 - Dan’s Key Findings 13:16 - Postmates Subscription Model Analysis 17:40 - Subscription Model Winners and Losers 20:09 - Late Entry to Subscription Models 23:52 - Industries at Risk with Subscriptions 26:26 - Emerging Industry Sleepers 27:20 - AI Impact on Subscription Models 31:33 - Practical Advice for Subscriptions 35:36 - Acknowledgments and Props 35:40 - Like & Subscribe See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
A CMO Confidential Interview with Kip Knight, founder of CMO Coaches, formerly CMO of Taco Bell and H&R Block US President. Kip breaks marketing leadership into "3 Chiefs" - Marketing Leader, Member of the Exec (First) Team, and Company Ambassador and offers tips for how to sequence and think about all three. Key discussion topics include: why running marketing is like being a conductor; how to become a respected member of "The First Team" by remembering "marketing isn't a special function;" how staying "hungry, humble, and smart" allows for continuous learning; and why "you need to go to school every day" throughout your career to "earn the CMO title." Tune in to hear tips for development and why it is usually a disservice to your people to tell them they are "great." Why is being a CMO the toughest job in business? Tune in as Mike Linton, five-time CMO and host of CMO Confidential, dives into the challenges and nuances of this high-stakes role with guest Kip Knight, founder of CMO Coaches and former CMO of Taco Bell. In this insightful conversation, Kip shares his framework for success, including the "three chiefs" concept—Marketing Chief, First Team Chief, and Company Ambassador Chief—and how these roles shape a successful chief marketing officer. Key topics include how CMOs can align with CEOs and CFOs, the importance of storytelling and customer insights, and the necessity of staying ahead in a rapidly evolving marketing landscape. Kip also offers valuable advice for aspiring CMOs, from leveraging curiosity and continuous learning to navigating the balance between creativity and financial acumen. Whether you're an aspiring marketer, seasoned professional, or business leader, this episode is packed with actionable insights on leadership, team-building, and making marketing a growth engine for your company. Subscribe to CMO Confidential for exclusive content and actionable strategies to elevate your marketing leadership skills. Don’t miss this opportunity to learn from industry veterans and sharpen your edge in the competitive world of marketing. #marketinganalytics #productmanagement #digitalmarketing #marketingcapabilities #socialmediamarketing CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:03 - Chief Marketing Officer Role 02:21 - CMO Responsibilities Overview 03:25 - Marketing Leadership Insights 08:58 - Team Leadership Strategies 10:31 - Team Leadership Strategies 17:34 - Company Ambassador Role 21:00 - Preparing for CMO Position 27:07 - Final Thoughts and Advice 27:34 - Journey as a Reward 29:40 - Peloton's Business Journey 29:46 - Importance of Finance for Marketers 29:50 - CMO Tenure Challenges See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
CMO Confidential correspondent Carilu Dietrich, former CMO and hypergrowth advisor who helped take Atlassian public, returns to talk about why she thinks 2025 represents the biggest change in the B2B marketplace in decades. Carilu discusses the potential acceleration of acquisitions and investment driven by macroeconomic factors and how AI is "smacking everyone in the face." Key topics include: zero click search; the onset of agentic AI; why in person is increasing in importance; and her belief that CMO's will scrap to meet aggressive growth targets with less budget. Tune in to hear how to use AI to create a guinea pig feeding schedule. Discover why B2B marketing faces its biggest transformation ever in 2024. Former Atlassian CMO Carilu Dietrich joins 5-time CMO Mike Linton to break down the seismic shifts reshaping the industry. Get an insider's perspective on how AI is disrupting traditional B2B marketing strategies, from the decline of SEO to the rise of AI-powered sales development. Learn why companies are losing 15-20% of their inbound traffic and how successful marketers are adapting to this new reality. Gain valuable insights on: • How AI native companies are disrupting established software businesses • Why traditional marketing funnels are becoming obsolete • The increasing importance of human connection in B2B relationships • New strategies for video marketing and social media engagement • Practical ways to maintain growth targets with tighter budgets Perfect for CMOs, marketing leaders, and B2B professionals looking to navigate the rapidly evolving marketing landscape. Whether you're dealing with budget constraints or exploring AI implementation, this episode provides actionable strategies for success in 2024 and beyond. #contentmarketing #marketingagainstthegrain #emailmarketing #aitools #cmoinsights2024 CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:40 - B2B Economy Insights 05:55 - Impact of AI on Businesses 09:33 - AI and Headcount Budgets 12:11 - AI's Effect on Sales Budgets 12:40 - Budgeting and Growth Strategies 15:50 - AI Transforming Marketing 19:06 - Future Trends in Events 26:10 - Marketing Tests for 2025 28:58 - Final Thoughts: Stories and Advice See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
A CMO Confidential Interview with Dr. Peter Fader, Professor of Marketing at The Wharton School of Business. This show is a bookend to "The Rise & Fall of Peloton as Seen Through the Lens of CLTV" with Professor Dan McCarthy. Pete discusses the use of Customer Lifetime Value (CLTV) as key to understanding the true value of the company and explains why it is risky to think "Your company is different." Key topics include: why customer metrics and stock valuations can be temporarily out of synch; why customer metrics eventually win out; how CMO's can use CLTV as a forecasting bridge with Finance; and how Warby Parker's strategic focus did not bend during dramatic stock price fluctuations. Tune in to hear why Warby is the Tortoise and Peloton is The Hare in the classic race. Discover the real story behind Warby Parker's dramatic $6B valuation swing and subsequent recovery through the lens of customer lifetime value analysis. Dr. Peter Fader, Professor at The Wharton School and co-founder of Zodiac (acquired by Nike), reveals how his team accurately predicted Warby Parker's true valuation before its IPO. Get an insider's look at how customer metrics and lifetime value calculations painted a different picture than Wall Street's initial $6B valuation. Learn why Warby Parker's steady approach to growth, unlike Peloton's aggressive expansion, ultimately proved successful. Dr. Fader breaks down the critical customer acquisition costs (CAC) miscalculations in Warby Parker's S-1 filing and explains how proper cohort analysis predicts company value. This episode provides invaluable insights for marketers and business leaders on using customer lifetime value to make strategic decisions, communicate with CFOs, and evaluate company worth beyond stock price fluctuations. Perfect for marketing executives, financial analysts, and anyone interested in the intersection of customer metrics and company valuation. Join Mike Linton, 5-time CMO, as he explores this fascinating case study that demonstrates why understanding customer economics is crucial for sustainable business growth and accurate company valuation. #growthhacking #performancemarketing #digitalmarketing #marketresearch #warbyparkeripo CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 02:00 - Using Customer Data and CLTV 05:52 - Warby Parker IPO Overview 11:29 - Warby Parker's Stock Price Impact 15:35 - Analyzing Warby Parker's CAC Error 18:18 - Warby Parker's Economic Performance 19:36 - Warby Parker: Tortoise vs. Hare Strategy 21:36 - Projecting TAM for International Expansion 23:17 - Projecting TAM for New Product Lines 27:59 - Wrapping Up Warby Parker Insights 29:30 - Marketing Advice and Strategies 30:16 - Conducting a Customer Base Audit 30:56 - Understanding Company Differentiation 31:56 - Outro See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
A CMO Confidential Interview with McKinsey Marketing & Sales Partner Robert Tas and Nick Primola, EVP and Head of the CMO Practice at the Association of National Advertisers. We discuss their recent study and Wall Street Journal article showing that CEO's who have marketing at the center of their strategy have measurably better results. They discuss the 3 types of CEO's including "non-believers" and why so many still exist, the dangers of running marketing as a cost center, and the tremendous variability of the CMO role. Key topics include: the biggest areas of misalignment; the need to connect to financial outcomes; how marketing needs to "claw it's way back;" and their belief that it is "Ludicrous to think the CMO role is going away." Listen in to hear why Business Schools are a significant part of the problem. CMO Crisis: Why can't 98% of marketing leaders agree on KPIs? Dive into this critical issue with 5-time CMO Mike Linton and guests Robert Tas and Nick Primola. Explore the disconnect between CMOs and CEOs, the role of business schools in marketing education, and strategies for aligning marketing with business objectives. Key topics include: • The challenge of defining and measuring marketing KPIs • How business schools contribute to fragmented marketing education • The importance of CMO-CEO alignment and communication • Strategies for demonstrating marketing's value to the C-suite • The need for customer-centric approaches in marketing Tune in to hear expert insights on bridging the gap between marketing leaders and business objectives. Learn how to position marketing as a critical driver of business growth and navigate the evolving landscape of marketing leadership. Subscribe to CMO Confidential for more exclusive content on marketing strategy, leadership, and industry trends. Don't miss out on valuable insights to elevate your marketing game and drive business success. #digitalmarketing #socialmediamarketing #marketingautomation #digitalmarketingcourse #kpi CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Props 00:22 - Business Schools Critique 05:24 - CMO Remit Responsibilities 07:14 - Customer Representation Issues 14:12 - Marketers on Boards: A Shortage 17:45 - Practical Marketing Advice & Stories 21:10 - Discover Our Other Shows 21:36 - Like, Share, and Subscribe 21:40 - Outro See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
This week's holiday episode revisits one of our most popular shows from the past year where leaders from @McKinsey and @ANAmarketers discuss the continued divide between marketing believers and non-believers. A CMO Confidential Interview with McKinsey Marketing & Sales Partner Robert Tas and Nick Primola, EVP and Head of the CMO Practice at the ANA. We discuss their recent study and Wall Street Journal article showing that CEO's who have marketing at the center of their strategy have measurably better results. They discuss the 3 types of CEO's including "non-believers" and why so many still exist, the dangers of running marketing as a cost center, and the tremendous variability of the CMO role. Key topics include: the biggest areas of misalignment; the need to connect to financial outcomes; how marketing needs to "claw it's way back;" and their belief that it is "Ludicrous to think the CMO role is going away." Listen in to hear why Business Schools are a significant part of the problem. Explore why 90% of CEOs don't trust marketing in this revealing discussion with McKinsey partner Robert Tosh and ANA's EVP Nick Primola. Discover the shocking disconnect between CEOs and CMOs, and learn why companies with marketing-focused leadership generate significantly more growth. This eye-opening conversation dives into McKinsey and ANA's groundbreaking research, featured in The Wall Street Journal, revealing three distinct CEO archetypes and their varying approaches to marketing. Former CMO Mike Linton hosts an honest discussion about the challenges facing modern marketing leaders and the critical need to bridge the trust gap between marketing and the C-suite. Key insights include: • Why less than 10% of Fortune 500 CEOs have marketing experience • How successful CMOs align with CEO priorities and prove marketing's value • The importance of translating marketing metrics into business outcomes • Strategies for building credibility with non-marketing executives Perfect for CMOs, marketing leaders, and executives looking to understand and overcome the persistent skepticism around marketing's strategic value. Learn how to transform marketing from a cost center to a trusted driver of business growth. Join Mike Linton, former CMO of Best Buy, eBay, Farmers Insurance, and Ancestry.com, for this essential conversation about marketing's evolving role in the C-suite. #martech #socialmediamarketing #digitalmarketing #influencermarketing #b2bmarketing CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Props Ad 00:21 - Intro 02:17 - State of the CMO 06:11 - CMO Position Challenges 08:23 - Non-Believing CEO Strategies 12:02 - Brand vs. Performance Marketing 15:34 - Article Reactions 22:10 - Marketing Non-Believers Explained 25:00 - Outro See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
This is Part 2 of A CMO Confidential Interview with Andy Sack and Adam Brotman, Co-Founders and Co-CEO's of Forum 3, authors of the book AI First, previously at Microsoft and Starbucks. They discuss why AI is different from previous technology advances and the series of "Holy Shit!" moments experienced when interviewing Sam Altman, Bill Gates and others. Key topics include: their belief that AI is "moving faster than you think" since it isn't constrained by an adoption curve or infrastructure; the power of Artificial General Intelligence which will be smarter than most experts; why trying to calculate the ROI of AI is comparable to measuring the return on electricity; and the possibility of 95% of marketing and agency jobs being impacted over the next 5 years. Tune in to hear how Chat GPT scored a top grade on the AP Biology Exam, how Moderna became an AI leader, and their tips for staying near the front of the wave. Discover how AI is revolutionizing marketing with 5X productivity gains, as revealed by top CMOs. In this episode of CMO Confidential, host Mike Lint explores the transformative power of AI in the marketing landscape. Adam and Andy, AI experts and authors, share insights on how companies like Moderna are leveraging AI to achieve unprecedented efficiency. Key topics include: • The real-world impact of AI adoption in biotech and marketing • How Moderna achieved 5X productivity gains with an AI-first approach • The future of marketing jobs in the age of AI • Strategies for marketers to become AI-literate and stay competitive • Evaluating AI vendors and measuring ROI in marketing Tune in to hear practical advice on embracing AI in your marketing strategy, from creating an AI council to implementing AI tools for enhanced productivity. Learn why AI literacy is crucial for marketers and how to combine domain knowledge with AI capabilities for breakthrough results. Don't miss this eye-opening discussion on the future of marketing in the AI era. Subscribe to CMO Confidential for more insights on marketing leadership and innovation. #leadgeneration #socialmediamarketing #digitalmarketing #makemoneywithai #brandinginthedigitalage CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 04:06 - AI Impact on Marketing 05:46 - AGI and Marketers 11:57 - Evaluating AI Vendors 16:14 - AI Literacy and Proficiency 21:00 - ROI of AI 26:35 - Final Questions 30:00 - Additional Practical Advice 33:07 - Outro See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
A CMO Confidential Interview with Andy Sack and Adam Brotman, Co-Founders and Co-CEO's of Forum 3, authors of the book AI First, previously at Microsoft and Starbucks. They discuss why AI is different from previous technology advances and the series of "Holy Shit!" moments experienced when interviewing Sam Altman, Bill Gates and others. Key topics include: their belief that AI is "moving faster than you think" since it isn't constrained by an adoption curve or infrastructure; the power of Artificial General Intelligence which will be smarter than most experts; why trying to calculate the ROI of AI is comparable to measuring the return on electricity; and the possibility of 95% of marketing and agency jobs being impacted over the next 5 years. Tune in to hear how Chat GPT scored a top grade on the AP Biology Exam, how Moderna became an AI leader, and their tips for staying near the front of the wave. Marketing's AI Revolution: What CMOs Need to Know Before 2025 | AI's impact on marketing strategies Tune in to hear former CMO Mike Linton discuss the AI revolution with Adam Brotman and Andy Sack, authors of "AI First". Key topics include: • The rapid advancement of AI and its potential to transform marketing • Insights from tech leaders like Sam Altman, Bill Gates, and Reid Hoffman • How AI could automate up to 95% of marketing tasks within 5 years • The concept of "agentic" AI and its implications for businesses • Strategies for marketers to adapt and thrive in an AI-driven landscape Adam Brotman, former Chief Digital Officer at Starbucks, and Andy Sack, Managing Partner at Keane Capital, share their "holy shit moments" about AI's capabilities. Learn why they believe AI will revolutionize not just marketing, but entire industries and society itself. Discover how companies like Moderna are already leveraging AI to dramatically increase productivity and innovation. This episode is crucial for CMOs and marketers looking to stay ahead in the rapidly evolving world of AI-powered marketing. Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for exclusive content and insights on the future of marketing in the AI era. #marketingagainstthegrain #digitaltwin #aimarketing #operatingmodeltransformation #digitalmarketing CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:05 - Welcome Adam and Andy 02:14 - Evolution of the Book 06:47 - Sam Altman AGI Discussion 12:05 - Bill Gates Insights 16:31 - Defining "Holy Shit Moment" 20:20 - Fears and Concerns Around AI 21:24 - AI vs. Other Tech Revolutions 22:19 - Exponential Change: COVID Preview 26:40 - Linear vs. Exponential Change 31:11 - Thinking About AI: Legal Briefs to Human Obliteration 31:30 - AI's Future Impact 32:14 - Moderna's AI Transformation 35:58 - AI in Marketing and Agencies See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
A CMO Confidential Interview with Jon Davids, founder and CEO of Influicity and author of Marketing Superpowers. Jon discusses the idea of creating your own influencers in a marketplace where communities matter more than ever. Key topics include: the synthetic influencer as a natural evolution from Colonel Sanders, Toucan Sam, and Tony the Tiger; the ability of an artificial character to do whatever is required; the AI personalization potential; and the fact that synthetics don't engage in contract negotiations or require reuse fees. Tune in to hear about Lil Miquela, a fictional character with millions of followers, and why you should pay attention to what nerds do on weekends. CMO Secrets: Why Synthetic AI Influencers Are Changing Marketing. John Davids, founder and CEO of influicity, joins Mike Linton to explore the evolving world of synthetic AI influencers and their impact on marketing strategies. Tune in to hear insights on: • The definition and growth of synthetic influencers • How brands can leverage AI-powered characters • Pros and cons of creating synthetic influencers • Personalization at scale using AI technology • The future of brand mascots and virtual personalities John shares his expertise on community building, influencer marketing, and the potential of AI in creating engaging brand experiences. Learn why synthetic influencers could be the next frontier in marketing and how they compare to traditional mascots and celebrities. Discover the challenges and opportunities facing CMOs as they navigate this innovative marketing landscape. Whether you're a seasoned marketer or a curious business professional, this episode offers valuable insights into the future of brand-consumer interactions. Subscribe to the CMO Confidential Newsletter for exclusive content and stay ahead in the rapidly evolving world of marketing. #influencermarketing #influencermarketingagency #socialmediamarketing #creatoreconomy #onlinecommunity CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Intro 01:00 - John Davids Returns 01:55 - Understanding Community 06:24 - Defining Synthetic Influencers 13:43 - Personalization at Scale Strategies 19:00 - Cartoon Characters vs. Virtual Influencers 22:13 - AI Bots as Your Best Customers 25:00 - Exploring the Final Frontier 25:37 - Closing Thoughts and Last Question See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .…
 
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