In episode 61 of the Potential Leader Lab Podcast, we unlock the transformative power of generative leadership and listening to elevate your organizational potential. My expert guest is Brent Robertson of Be Generative, a firm that has gained 25 years of experience helping leaders navigate the most pivotal moments of their careers.

🤔 Our Discussion 🤔

In the 60-minute conversation, we explore the evolution of leadership into a generative act, and deconstruct the significance of curiosity and listening, the two-way catalysts that shape our paths as leaders. We share practical take-aways on how leaders can use these insights to drive meaningful change.

★ Key Topics ★

0:43 - The Evolution of Generative Leadership

3:07 - Exploring Human Systems and Dynamics

6:04 - Unpacking Catalysts: Push vs. Pull

12:00 - The Art of Listening: Beyond Understanding

16:05 - The Unexplored Power of Curiosity in Leadership

26:23 - Balancing Knowledge and Mystery

31:34 - Transformative Conversations: Experiments in Leadership

41:57 - Moving from Unknown to Unknowable

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Perry Maughmer believes the world deserves better leadership; that in every human interaction there is the opportunity to either build others up or tear them down; and that leadership is the choice we make in those moments.

These beliefs led Perry to create the Potential Leader Lab. He wanted to offer those who share his beliefs the space and safety to explore transformative ideas, experiment with new behaviors, and evolve into the leaders they were meant to be and that the world needs.

This is a framework he has used again and again with his Vistage peer advisory groups and companies like Turn-Key Tunneling, Convergint, Haughn & Associates, I Am Boundless, Ketchum & Walton, LSP Technologies, and Ahlum & Arbor.

Perry lives and works on the shores of Buckeye Lake in Ohio, in the mountains of northwest Georgia, and on the beach in Anna Maria, Florida with his amazingly creative wife Lisa. They have 2 rescue dogs and are intermittently visited by their 3 wonderful children throughout the year. Perry & Lisa are living life in crescendo and focused on exploring, experimenting, and evolving their vision of a life they have no desire to retire from.

Copyright 2025 Perry Maughmer

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