In this episode, Karen sits down with Sean and discusses his involvement in defending Oklahoma's education system. Sean highlights the challenges faced by the state's schools and the impact of defunding.
Sean shares his concerns about Ryan Walters, the Secretary of Education, and his controversial actions. He emphasizes the importance of organizing and taking action to protect education.
Sean explains the role of Defense of Democracy in advocating for change and the power of showing up and making a statement. He also discusses the use of privilege and humor as weapons in the fight for education.
Sean shares personal experiences and highlights the need to stand up for rights and witness change. He emphasizes the importance of fighting for education funding and the power of coming together as a group.
This conversation explores the power of grassroots movements and the impact they can have in creating change. It discusses the appointment of controversial individuals to positions of power and the threats and bomb threats that can result from their actions.
Their conversation also emphasizes the importance of using legal action to hold people accountable and the need to hit them where it hurts, such as through lawsuits. It highlights the power of numbers and the importance of supporting schools and education. The conversation concludes with a call to action for collective action and making a difference in school lunch debt.

Conversation Highlights:

• Defunding has had a significant impact on Oklahoma's education system, leading to a decline in quality.
• Ryan Walters, the Secretary of Education, has raised concerns due to his controversial actions and associations.
• Organizing and taking action is crucial in defending education and bringing about change.
• Defense of Democracy plays a vital role in advocating for education and ensuring accountability.
• Using privilege and humor can be effective weapons in the fight for education.
• Standing up for rights and witnessing change requires persistence and determination.
• The fight for education funding is ongoing and requires collective action. Grassroots movements can be powerful forces for change, even without financial resources.
• Legal action can be an effective way to hold individuals accountable for their actions.
• It is important to hit those causing harm where it hurts, such as through lawsuits.
• Supporting schools and education is a crucial aspect of creating positive change.

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