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Aug 17, 2014 3:53 PM

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MaiTai said:
Glad you all ask! Basically you vote via voice/text (if we're using Skype and some people are shy) and for actions, they can just IM the GM so others can't see.. Like the mafia/bad guys can kill in the night the same way we always do.
It's not very hard at all lol. Phases can run by minutes, so like 5 minute or 10 minute phases (etc.)
How many players would we need?
Aug 17, 2014 3:54 PM

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Jackrito said:
I think questioning the host's commitment is going too far I do agree with your points on this but I think that was uneeded tbh I don't want this to become a drama or anything this is a trial system they was always going to be problems and blameing the hosts for brining in new ideas in is not helpful
I know. Not sure what I was thinking. Like I said just kinda irritated. We didn't get a VC until 10 minutes till deadline.
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Exploring, experimenting, and working with others to make the games work. That's the purpose of a lot these first games when it comes down to the host side of things. We listened to you before the game started, and we're still listening to you now, but Grave really wanted to try and make the poll thing work. I can't blame her. If it does work out, some way or another, then that's awesome. We would have a better way to count votes faster, so that if we ever do get into a crunch time situation, things won't be lost due to lack of speed. But we'll never know unless we try to make it work. And if it doesn't, then lesson learned, and you were absolutely right. New club= Learning experience
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Aug 17, 2014 3:56 PM

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MaiTai said:
Glad you all ask! Basically you vote via voice/text (if we're using Skype and some people are shy) and for actions, they can just IM the GM so others can't see.. Like the mafia/bad guys can kill in the night the same way we always do.
It's not very hard at all lol. Phases can run by minutes, so like 5 minute or 10 minute phases (etc.)
How many players would we need?


Skype holds up to 24 people on a call I believe (might be 25).
We don't have to do that many though.
And also, if people are worried they will be heard typing/not talking during the night. The GM can terminate the call then start a call with mafia members. Either way!
I'm actually thinking of hosting a cluster of these rather than my multimedia NGNL project since school will start and I'll be really busy.
Still wanna do my NGNL one, just not sure if I can do it right away now

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Yeah I understand the annoyance fo-fai you said u were sorry before I said it anyway so that is fine just try to watch your temper a bit at times I know it is part of who u are I can be the same way.
Aug 17, 2014 4:00 PM

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Fo-Fai said:
No need to get mad. If you're doing your best then fair enough. I just think that when there's two hosts a vote count here and there isn't that much to ask. If you posted 8 of them, I don't remember.

Go look @ the game thread and you will see them. Next time, you can try to pay attention to what we actually say instead of just trying to find something wrong with what we do, you are not there to judge us, you're there to play and have gun. Please do that!

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grave_robber said:

Ok, now you are making up excuses to back up your clearly bad ideas.
Lol. wut?

I will use the word you're so fond of, manual count is a bad idea! It's messy, tiresome, doesn't help the players get the latest results and it's outdated.
Intelligent people work smart not hard.

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Aug 17, 2014 4:01 PM

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Friends, may I speak on the voting situation?
From my experience, it's best to keep a tally via MAL. I do not like the vote: SenorNekoKunTheForuth format personally since it's too hard on the GM (& GA if there is one) to tally, especially since some do and some do not use the unvote feature.
I like lists.
i.e.
Vote MaiTai
-uno
-dos
-tres

Vote Your mother
-ichi
-nii
-san

Then it is up to the GM/GA to be the one to keep it up, or you can entrust it to the players. If your game calls for a leadership role (or even a role like the confirmed townie role from the mini game) then you can allow those players to keep it up as well. I personally like to entrust everyone to do it, and if they fuck it up, then it's my job as GM to clean up said list. I like the list format because it instantly lets the GM/GA know who is deemed inactive as well.

Of course everyone can try out their own formats, it is their own game, but I think after we finish these first few games we should have a MS standard of how certain things go (i.e. voting system) so that all of our players know what to expect. The theme/roles/etc. can change, but things like voting should be the same across the board once all kinks are worked out.

I'll repost this in staff chat for all staff members to see.

Aug 17, 2014 4:02 PM

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Fo-Fai said:
Jackrito said:
I think questioning the host's commitment is going too far I do agree with your points on this but I think that was uneeded tbh I don't want this to become a drama or anything this is a trial system they was always going to be problems and blameing the hosts for brining in new ideas in is not helpful
I know. Not sure what I was thinking. Like I said just kinda irritated. We didn't get a VC until 10 minutes till deadline.

That is a lite, stop lying and go look @ the damn thread! I will throw you out of the game if you keep lying about it.

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Aug 17, 2014 4:04 PM

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Guise, this really shouldn't be in the general chat thread.
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Aug 17, 2014 4:05 PM

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Fo-Fai said:
You can at the very least understand why it would be irritating to not know what the fucking vote count is. I would hope.

If you're incapable of reading, then it's you're problem not mine, the vote count was posted many times. stop lying.

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Aug 17, 2014 4:07 PM

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Fo-Fai said:
Why am I always the bad guy. -_-

Look I'm just giving the same opinion on the poll voting that I did before the game even started. I even said the fault isn't all on the hosts. So grave should know it's nothing personal.

nope, you're a bully and jerk to lots of people, several complaints have been made against you for your bad behavior and attitude, Oh gee, I wonder why?

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Aug 17, 2014 4:07 PM

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LucianRoy said:
Exploring, experimenting, and working with others to make the games work. That's the purpose of a lot these first games when it comes down to the host side of things. We listened to you before the game started, and we're still listening to you now, but Grave really wanted to try and make the poll thing work. I can't blame her. If it does work out, some way or another, then that's awesome. We would have a better way to count votes faster, so that if we ever do get into a crunch time situation, things won't be lost due to lack of speed. But we'll never know unless we try to make it work. And if it doesn't, then lesson learned, and you were absolutely right. New club= Learning experience
Well said.

MaiTai said:

And also, if people are worried they will be heard typing/not talking during the night. The GM can terminate the call then start a call with mafia members. Either way!
I'm actually thinking of hosting a cluster of these rather than my multimedia NGNL project since school will start and I'll be really busy.
Still wanna do my NGNL one, just not sure if I can do it right away now
I'm down to try it. My skype is fo-faight. xD Made it recently for some admin election bs for another club on MAL ironically. Talk about drama.

Does 10 people sound like a good start?

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Yeah I understand the annoyance fo-fai you said u were sorry before I said it anyway so that is fine just try to watch your temper a bit at times I know it is part of who u are I can be the same way.
I aint even mad, tho.
Aug 17, 2014 4:08 PM

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@Fee Fai Fo Fum: We can do 10 sure to test it out perhaps, but I think it'd make for a fun little tournament too, do a few rounds, and host it as an official game.
I can post a thread for general trial interest for now though.

Aug 17, 2014 4:10 PM

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Jackrito said:
Yeah I understand the annoyance fo-fai you said u were sorry before I said it anyway so that is fine just try to watch your temper a bit at times I know it is part of who u are I can be the same way.


He didn't apologize and if he does, his apology will not be accepted. verbally attacking others for not doing what he wants is unacceptable, I don't work for him, neither does karote.

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Aug 17, 2014 4:18 PM

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I didn't 'verbally attack' you, grave. I did kind of half apologize but you are doing your best, it's your first time so I wasn't expecting the world anyway.

It's just my opinion. It's your game. Do what you want.
Aug 17, 2014 4:26 PM

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Hey guise. Either take it to staff chat or squash it lol. Srsly.
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ANYWAYS...
I quickly typed up some sort of outline for the Skype trials:


Thoughts?

Aug 17, 2014 4:27 PM

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I've been tryna squash it. Srsly. xD
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Shhhhhh. Just shhhhhhh.
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I wUNNa cHAt plZ

Aug 17, 2014 4:31 PM

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MaiTai said:
Hey guise. Either take it to staff chat or squash it lol. Srsly.
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ANYWAYS...
I quickly typed up some sort of outline for the Skype trials:


Thoughts?
Sounds fun to me. xD The trouble would be finding a time where TEN people are all free for like what? An hour or two? That'll be tricky.
Aug 17, 2014 4:32 PM

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this is some personal problems between 2 people like I had with u before Fo-fai we got over that so I am hopeing we can solve this between u 2 we are takeing this to the staff thread now
Aug 17, 2014 4:32 PM

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Fo-Fai said:
MaiTai said:
Hey guise. Either take it to staff chat or squash it lol. Srsly.
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ANYWAYS...
I quickly typed up some sort of outline for the Skype trials:


Thoughts?
Sounds fun to me. xD The trouble would be finding a time where TEN people are all free for like what? An hour or two? That'll be tricky.


Yeah I know right? I would postpone it to this weekend, but I'll be traveling. :/

Aug 17, 2014 4:35 PM

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Wut if you are a skype hater?


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Shhhhhh. Just shhhhhhh.
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I wUNNa cHAt plZ


Sounded like a true pervert.
Aug 17, 2014 4:37 PM

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cloud2313 said:
Wut if you are a skype hater?

Then you just won't play.


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Sounded like a true pervert.

46/m/fl u?
send pix pls

Aug 17, 2014 4:40 PM

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MaiTai said:
cloud2313 said:
Wut if you are a skype hater?

Then you just won't play.


cloud2313 said:
Sounded like a true pervert.

46/m/fl u?
send pix pls


Fl? Is that florida? I dont know much about US...

Just 1 sec, goin' taking some selfies... (i never was a fan of selfies either)
Aug 17, 2014 4:42 PM

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I'm retarded at skype apparently.
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Btw...

Isnt that f instead of m? And 46? Really mai?

Asking these question goes to show, I uave tried Omegle. As soon as I declared myself male, they quit... When i claimed female, all of a sudden they want video chat and all -_-
Aug 17, 2014 4:48 PM

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Mai, is your skype picture a black dude holding his crotch? xDD
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Btw...

Isnt that f instead of m? And 46? Really mai?

Asking these question goes to show, I uave tried Omegle. As soon as I declared myself male, they quit... When i claimed female, all of a sudden they want video chat and all -_-
Isn't omegle different, though?
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Fo-Fai said:
Mai, is your skype picture a black dude holding his crotch? xDD


I downloaded skype and madan account just to see this. But i cant find her... What name did you use, fo?
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cloud2313 said:
Btw...

Isnt that f instead of m? And 46? Really mai?

Asking these question goes to show, I uave tried Omegle. As soon as I declared myself male, they quit... When i claimed female, all of a sudden they want video chat and all -_-


Nope. I said m to be funny. Of course I'm female.


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Mai, is your skype picture a black dude holding his crotch? xDD

LMAO. No. It's of the girl that's on my profile, with the MaiTai branded hair and pocky in her mouth. My name is in Korean and my location is "AfriKorea" lol

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cloud2313 said:
Fo-Fai said:
Mai, is your skype picture a black dude holding his crotch? xDD


I downloaded skype and madan account just to see this. But i cant find her... What name did you use, fo?


I'm tokyo.model

Karote found me easily enough.

Aug 17, 2014 4:58 PM

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cloud2313 said:
Fo-Fai said:
Mai, is your skype picture a black dude holding his crotch? xDD


I downloaded skype and madan account just to see this. But i cant find her... What name did you use, fo?
I'm fo-faight the name is ff.
Aug 17, 2014 4:59 PM

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MaiTai said:
Fo-Fai said:
Sounds fun to me. xD The trouble would be finding a time where TEN people are all free for like what? An hour or two? That'll be tricky.


Yeah I know right? I would postpone it to this weekend, but I'll be traveling. :/


Sounds like fun! Can I play too?
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one."
Aug 17, 2014 4:59 PM

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@LuRo I'm going to run it by the club owners then make a thread if they're cool with it.

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Btw...

Isnt that f instead of m? And 46? Really mai?

Asking these question goes to show, I uave tried Omegle. As soon as I declared myself male, they quit... When i claimed female, all of a sudden they want video chat and all -_-


Nope. I said m to be funny. Of course I'm female.


Fo-Fai said:
Mai, is your skype picture a black dude holding his crotch? xDD

LMAO. No. It's of the girl that's on my profile, with the MaiTai branded hair and pocky in her mouth. My name is in Korean and my location is "AfriKorea" lol


Oh that language with circles and sticks is korean, no offense sorry. It isn't showing pics on my phone, but I is that girl the one from your profile?
Aug 17, 2014 5:08 PM

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LucianRoy said:
Sounds like fun! Can I play too?
what's your skype?
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may as well join this sounds fun to do in future
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Tbh, there are some question I have about voice chat:

[list]
[*] what about people from different timezones?
[*] there are many people who prefer anonymity, this game wouldn't be for them, i guess wait, this is not a question... I cant be bothered to backspace it.
[*] are you gonna keep the chat essentially for 24 hours with your co host. Phases are that long after all.
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Fo-Fai said:
LucianRoy said:
Sounds like fun! Can I play too?
what's your skype?


Lucian Roy.
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one."
Aug 17, 2014 5:22 PM

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LucianRoy said:
Fo-Fai said:
what's your skype?


Lucian Roy.
Which one? There's a bunch.
Aug 17, 2014 5:29 PM

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Hold on, I'll figure this out in a minute.Try "Lucian Roy Bezlebenko"
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Aug 17, 2014 5:30 PM

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I live in Rochester NY too.
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Aug 17, 2014 6:13 PM

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cloud2313 said:
Tbh, there are some question I have about voice chat:

[list]
[*] what about people from different timezones?
[*] there are many people who prefer anonymity, this game wouldn't be for them, i guess wait, this is not a question... I cant be bothered to backspace it.
[*] are you gonna keep the chat essentially for 24 hours with your co host. Phases are that long after all.


-If they are free they are free; if they are not free, they cannot play.
-lolkay.
-Huh? I put in my outline that phases would only last about 10 minutes lol. We can't voice for 24 hours...

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Friends, may I speak on the voting situation?
From my experience, it's best to keep a tally via MAL. I do not like the vote: SenorNekoKunTheForuth format personally since it's too hard on the GM (& GA if there is one) to tally, especially since some do and some do not use the unvote feature.
I like lists.
i.e.
Vote MaiTai
-uno
-dos
-tres

Vote Your mother
-ichi
-nii
-san

Then it is up to the GM/GA to be the one to keep it up, or you can entrust it to the players. If your game calls for a leadership role (or even a role like the confirmed townie role from the mini game) then you can allow those players to keep it up as well. I personally like to entrust everyone to do it, and if they fuck it up, then it's my job as GM to clean up said list. I like the list format because it instantly lets the GM/GA know who is deemed inactive as well.

Of course everyone can try out their own formats, it is their own game, but I think after we finish these first few games we should have a MS standard of how certain things go (i.e. voting system) so that all of our players know what to expect. The theme/roles/etc. can change, but things like voting should be the same across the board once all kinks are worked out.

I'll repost this in staff chat for all staff members to see.


I'm afraid with this you'd be filling up too many pages too fast, i'd think
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Aug 17, 2014 6:37 PM

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@PTY it worked for Game v3.

Aug 17, 2014 6:39 PM

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my biggest problem with the 'list' is the quote towers

i hate quote towers >.>
Aug 17, 2014 6:41 PM

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No need to make quote towers, it's literally a copy and paste. lol

Or put it in a spoiler too.

Aug 17, 2014 6:51 PM

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Mai's idea might be worth a shot, that is, if anyone wants to implement it into their games. Some things come down to the mod's taste, and if he/she likes to do things old school, then that's their preference.
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Aug 17, 2014 6:55 PM

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That's true LuRo, but like I said, I really do think that some things need to be a general standard.
I think voting one way in one game then something totally new in the next confuses players.
I like the way it worked in Game v3 and I also use it for the Code Geass games I host in the forum games section.
However, if staff would rather do something else, that's cool too, but when it comes to a) voting and b) signing up, I think we should all be on one accord.

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I was talking about a standard earlier for the games, but you have to consider, we're still a fairly new club, and almost all of our games have been test runs in some way or another. The lay of it is that basically, we're not ready to have a standard yet until we can pull together, work as a team, and try out more games. However, trial and error doesn't have to be the only way we formulate the standard. It's important that we listen to staff members, and all they have to say, even if they come off as rude sometimes. We won't get anywhere by shooting down ideas/ ignoring them, but we will get somewhere by giving them a shot.
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one."
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