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System of Systems

Adam Lehrer, Matthew Denicola

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All culture is propaganda. Everything you hold dear is connected to that which subjugates you. Deconstruct art, culture, and politics, and attempt to understand the pervasive conformism that has saturated it all. Hosted by Adam Lehrer and Matthew DeNicola patreon.com/systemofsystems safetypropaganda.substack.com x.com/SystemofSystem3 x.com/safetypropagan1 x.com/mattiopattio ​
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Tennessee based recording and performing artist duo MEINSCHAFT discusses art, music, political ambiguity, more Meinschaft "This Kiss" The Residents "Swastikas on Parade" https://music.apple.com/us/album/swastikas-on-parade/518757784?i=518758551 Laibach "Geburt Einer Nation" https://music.apple.com/us/album/geburt-einer-nation/828105914?i=828105929 …
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Philly based musician and artist Morgan Garrett's excellent recent album Purity has been compared to bands as unrelated as Korn and the Shadow Ring by midwit rock writers. Nevertheless, there is something interesting about the references, and Adam found himself shocked by how fascinated he was by this strange, disorienting and highly original music…
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Convening around the topic of the culd oddity that is the 2000 Cash Money Records produced film Baller Blockin', Anna K wades into her love of hip-hop culture, the differences between the intellectualism of New York rap versus the ratchet experimentalism of Deep South rap, shared Cape Cod roots, and more SUBSCRIBE FOR FULL EPISODE LINKS: Follow Ann…
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Sex Magazine is now in its 14th issue and its 4th since it was reborn as a print journal, and it's a doozy. Sam Hyde, the man who started it all, and Million Dollar Extreme grace the cover . Sex Mag editor Asher Penn joins to discuss the new issue, as well as the differences between the art movement of the 2010s that the project was born out of and…
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Finnish multimedia artist, painter, and recent author Jukka Siikala joins SOS by SP to discuss his zine series Seksnobyl, new film work, doing album art, the differences and similarities between writing and making visual work, and the state of Finnish politics. OST Cannibal Corpse "Born in a Casket" Pharoah Overlord "Verbi" Impaled Nazarene "The Ho…
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Jack Mason, the iconic creator of the Perfume Nationalist podcast, joins the show to definitively define what we call "The Gen-X Problem", with numerous digressions into topics like Huysmans, Nan Goldin being a junkie hag, Gavin McInnes, Satanic Panic, Howard Stern, Steve Albini, Brat, Kamala and more... SOUNDTRACK Douglas Coupland on Gen-X Madonna…
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Gary Beauvais is a Michigan based artist and musician who has been recording beneath the name Mammal since the beginning of the '00s. This year, however, he released a new album called Deserted. I shit you not, this is one of the best records of the year. Haunting and emotive. Gary discusses the record with the boys, as well as the transition of hi…
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Adam explains his experiences as a contributor of Compact Magazine, how it was pitched to him versus what the magazine has become, based around the recent resigning of friend of the show Nina Power as an editor of the project after Luke Turner leaked private communications between her and former guest Daniel Miller that were presented as evidence d…
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People have been telling me for years that the artist Shay Semple and I would get along. Finally, we started bonding on Instagram over a shared contempt for the Tumblr art of Nina Hartman. Shay, who hails from the Fentanyl cesspool of Vancouver, is the OG MAGA art world figure, known equally for his irreverent paintings, his provocative zines, and …
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Ben Werther is a conceptual artist, born in Nashville and living in New York, whose new exhibition at No Gallery, “WHEN YOU CAN NO LONGER SPEAK, SING ME A SONG.” , presents a fascinating sequence of photographs that initially look like on the ground photojournalistic documents of armed combat. Upon further inquiry, however, you learn that these ima…
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Famed fashion designer and high fashion's Dimes Square rep Elena Velez discusses her last two insta-iconic shows, the mud fight of SS 2024 and the Gone with the Wind Ball of FW 2024, and her resilience in the face of high and mighty fashion editors and her refusal to play along. We accept you One of US! Soundtrack: Total "You'll Get Yours Yet" Lung…
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Amongst the many legends Adam met in Osaka, experimental musician, comics writer/illustrator and creator of the now legendary and historic No Fun Festival, which captured noise and experimental music at the peak of its power in the 2000s. Carlos discusses his discovery of noise living in Miami in the '90s, creating the best noise festival of all ti…
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After months of criticism about the fight card, 300 indeed ended up being the best martial arts card in history, and launched fan favorite and fighter's fighter Max Holloway to instant superstardom after he knocked out Justin Gaethje in the final five seconds of a five round right, for the coveted BMF title, arguably the grandest and most artistic …
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Damen Corrado is a Chicago-based writer and actor with old school links to Adam Parfrey and the broader American underground. In 2019, the late Parfrey's Feral House publishing imprint published a book co-written by Damen and James "Jinx" O'Connor. Entitled Compliments of Chicagohoodz: "A rare, private collection of photos, calling cards, and ephem…
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Bjorn Copeland is a mixed media artist, sculptor, and musician perhaps best known as a founding member of the long-lived and ever shapeshifting experimental rock group Black Dice. FULL EPISODE Soundtrack: Black Dice "Seabirds" Black Dice "Re-Reading" Wolf Eyes "Black Vomit" Aaliyah "Are You that Somebody" Masonna "Untitled" Burning Spear "The Ghost…
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Shortly before Adam's journey to Japan, he and Matthew discuss two trashy arthouse thrillers from the past and present: Ingmar Bergman's 1980 made for TV movie From the Life of the Marionettes and Rose Glass' 2024 bodybuilding lesbian romance thriller Love Lies Bleeding. From the Life of the Marionettes is a disturbing slow burn of a masterpiece – …
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Dune: Part 2, Denis Villeneuve's second half of his adaptation of Frank Herbet's sci-fi masterpiece Dune, is out. It's huge. Everyone has an opinion. So do we. Dr. Benjamin Braddock and Mommy Milkers join the show to discuss the film. SOUNDTRACK: Herbie Hancock "Watermelon Man" Reverend Bizarre "In the Victory of" John Frusciante "God" UGK "Pocket …
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A week before the opening of her exhibition the Pond Society in Shanghai, artist Emma Stern discusses her work, porn, ABBA and the creation of avatars. Matthew Denicola is the new producer and co-host of SOS by SP. We thank Will Samson for his two years of work Soundtrack Y$ "Back to Me" Controlled Bleeding "Fat Bird Curd" Blue Cheer "Out of Focus"…
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Conceptual artist, musician, and founding member of iconic NYC power electronics group Final Solution, Edward Giles, joins the Safety Propaganda network. The primary topic is the reissue of Edward's industrial project Helltown Inc on former guest Max Julian Eastman's label. The release not only comes with hours of music, art inserts and otherwise, …
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Regularly referred to as "The most famous Nordic Artist since Edvard Munch," painter, sculptor, filmmaker and installation artist Bjarne Megaard joins the audiocast to dish on decades in the art world. Topics covered: Bjarne's new film Barney Does it All based on his time as a whore in Sydney, his interview with porno actress Rae Lil Black in the n…
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Yorgos Lanthimos has not been a preferred filmmaker of the Safety Propaganda universe. Too self-consciously "weird". Too Letterboxd. His new film Poor Things, starring Emma Stone in a virtuosic performance as a young woman with the brain of an infant, is a comic masterpiece. Based on a story by surrealist Scottish author Alsadair Gray, 'Poor Things…
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Kanye is trying to release a new record, Vultures, with Ty Dolla $ign, and his enemies are refusing to get its samples cleared, leaving the record unreleased. Kanye, of course, isn't staying quiet about what's happening behind the scenes, and treated the world to a 15 minute rant against his many enemies, ranging from LVMH CEO Bernard Arnaut, the R…
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At the end of November, friends of SP Newton Gallery hosted an exhibition of paintings and cartoons by American artist Stephen Tunney. Many of those in attendance likely had no idea that these disorienting, vivid, and fantastical images were made by the same Stephen Tunney behind the indie rock solo project Dogbowl. When Stephen plugged his guitar …
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We are now a few weeks passed the 2023 Mr. Olympia contest. Bodybuilding seems to have reached its pinnacle, with Phil Heath being the champion who set the standard for what a bodybuilder should look like in the 2010s. Since then, conditioning has gone down hill, no one is getting in shape, and the one guy who does get in shape (Nick Walker) was in…
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Boul God records is a Philadelphia-based bizarre music label that traffics in all manner of surreal and mind-bending contemporary styles of music. From the cavernous, early Death in June influenced post-punk/neofolk of Gorseddd FM, to the disorienting blend of head fucked techno and garbled BM vocals of Grail Wizard, to the brutal and frightening e…
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Artist, musician, academic, and member of legacy American experimental band ONO Conor Tomaka joins the show once more, but with a specific purpose this time around. John Frusciante is already a God-level figure in the oeuvre of Safety Propaganda, but this time we are going back to the virtuoso guitarist of the Chili Peppers and experimental solo ar…
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Montana's most avant-garde good ol' boy and the editor of the magazine American Vulgaria, Ryan Simón, joins the show to discuss him and Adam's adventures in Los Angeles, Terry Richardson, art history as a history of cooming, and the circumstances and horniness that led to the creation of his magazine. SOUNDTRACK: Home Blitz "Home" Christ Agony "Inc…
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Dan Baltic, writer and co-host of the New Write podcast, releases his debut novel Nutcrankr for Terrorhouse Press. It is a contemporary novel about masculinity and male delusion; one man's plummet into debasement. Baltic joins the show to discuss the novel, masculinity, cope, writing, classic rock, some other stuff, I can't remember. FULL EPISODE H…
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Adam has been re-reading David Keenan's historical biography on the rise of Industrial Music, England's Hidden Riverse, after it was re-published with extended material over the summer. That book primarily looks at the rise and legacies of Coil, Nurse with Wound, and Current 93 (and suspiciously, only passingly mentions Douglas Pearce and Death in …
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