In depth discussions with therapists and counselors about the art, science and technique of psychotherapy. Hosts RJ Thomas and John Webber sit down with experienced and aspiring therapists to discuss how they work, their orientations, techniques and what it’s really like to sit down with clients and get the work done. Not simply a psychology podcast, for professional and the public alike, Talking Therapy offers insights in the world of the working therapist and client. Guests include Marriag ...
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Talking Therapy Ep. 41 The Making of a Therapist Part 1
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1:09:49RJ and John sit down with “Rebecca.” Rebecca is the pseudonym of a new marriage and family therapy student. She is a young woman who has decided to embark on her education and training in psychology and counseling. This will be a multi-part series where we touch base with Rebecca time to time throughout her education and training. RJ and John both …
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Talking Therapy Ep. 40 Victor Yalom, PhD. On What We Can Learn from The Greats
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1:04:48Therapist, internet entrepreneur and cartoonist Victor Yalom, PhD joins us to talk about what he has learned from the greats. As someone who has had access to some of the greatest minds in the field he has some very interesting things to say about presence and being with clients in the here and now. Victor is also owner of the site Psychotherapy.ne…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 39 Therapy in the time of Coronavirus with Dr. Amir Ettekal
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43:40The world with Coronavirus has posed challenges for therapists everywhere. With significant parts of the country in extensive lockdown many of us have switched our entire practices to an online format. Will this change therapy forever or is this just a slight adjustment - or are we all just suffering from Adjustment Disorder? RJ and John practice s…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 38 Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation with Dr. Martha Koo
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1:17:17Dr. Martha Koo of the Neurowellness Spa in Manhattan Beach, CA sits down with the boys to talk about the FDA approved treatment of Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (or TMS). Dr. Koo, a psychiatrist, talks about how TMS works and how it can help. She also discusses some of the other treatments her clinic offers including IV Ketamine and Photobiomod…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 37 Making a Living in Psychotherapy with Moe Gelbart, PhD
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1:12:48John and RJ sit down to talk with one of the lions of the field of psychotherapy, Dr. Moe Gelbart. An administrator, therapist and businessman, Dr. Gelbart recounts a long and successful career in psychotherapy and gives the boys insight into how he's helped people and made a good living in psychotherapy. This episode is exclusively sponsored by Be…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 36 Working with Suicide with Norine VanderHooven, LCSW
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1:09:46Suicide may be one of the most intense and difficult things for any therapist to work with. Norine VanderHooven, LCSW and Chair of the Youth Suicide Prevention Committee for the American Association of Suicidology joins us to talk about facts and strategies to use with clients expressing suicidal ideation. This episode is exclusively sponsored by B…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 35 Working with Adoption with Lesli Johnson MFT
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1:13:59Lesli Johnson, MFT joins us to discuss clinical issues around adoption. She brings her own personal perspective as someone who is adopted as well as a caring and passionate clinical approach to this subject. She discusses a concept known as the Ghost Kingdom and the challenges and trauma adoptees and adoptive parents face. Not many people specializ…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 34 Hypnosis and Alfred Adler with Dr. David Godot
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1:22:24Dr. David Godot joins us to talk about the use of hypnosis and hypnotic practices in therapy. He also talks about his experience at the Adler Institute as well as Alfred Adler and his unique ideas about the formation of personality and how people see themselves. Find David Godot here: https://psychlab.us This episode is exclusively sponsored by Ben…
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Talking Therapy Ep 33 Sara Schulting-Kranz on Finding Personal Transformation in Nature
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1:12:43Sara Schulting-Kranz joins us to talk about her transformation from married mother of three, who one day discovered “my husband is gay,” to life coach helping and leading people on journeys of their own transformation in the Grand Canyon and in the Sierras. Sara talks about the power of nature to heal and the amazing life changes she and her client…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 32 Ben Caldwell Returns on Divorce Rates and Emotional Support Animals
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1:13:49Dr. Ben Caldwell returns to the show to pick a bone with John about a statistic he quoted during our popular Sue Johnson interview. Ben discusses divorce and marriage and its current state in our society. We also touch on the ever emotional subject of Emotional Support Animals and how or if therapists should support their use.…
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Talking Therapy Ep 31 Sex and Food with Dr. Nazanin Moali
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1:16:13Dr. Nazanin Moali, a licensed psychologist from Torrance, CA joins us to discuss two of her specialties, eating disorders in men and sex therapy. Dr. Moali host of the podcast, Sexology, brings a unique perspective to her work that she shares with John and RJ. This episode is sponsored by Ben Caldwell Labs at BenCaldwelllabs.com, creating a more em…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 30 Therapist Court Prep with Nicol Stolar-Peterson, LCSW, BCD
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1:15:04There’s a knock on your door and a man hands you an envelope. You’ve been served a subpoena - now what? Nicol Stolar-Peterson, LCSW, BCD joins us to talk about getting therapists ready for court. She discusses her experience testifying and tells why she actually likes going to court. She also talks about the pitfalls most therapists fall into. This…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 29 Hold Me Tight, Let Me Go with Drs. Paul and Nancy Aikin
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1:26:39Drs. Paul and Nancy Aikin join us to talk about their workshop for parents and teens called “Hold Me Tight, Let Me Go”. Based on Dr. Sue Johnson’s Hold Me Tight workshop, and adapted for parents and teens, this group approaches parents and teens from an attachment standpoint and helps them connect and hear each other in ways many of them never imag…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 28 Dr. Jeffrey Zeig on the Evolution of Psychotherapy and Milton H. Erickson
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1:04:42As founder and CEO of the Milton H. Erickson Foundation Dr. Jeffrey Zeig has gathered together some of the greatest minds and most dominant personalities in the history of psychotherapy. The foundation’s Evolution of Psychotherapy conference is perhaps the largest gathering of its kind anywhere in the world. Bringing together dynamic speakers and c…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 27 Steve Lawrence MD on Psychotropic Blindness
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1:10:23Dr. Steven Lawrence joins us to discuss what happens when doctors are more focused on medication than on the actual patient. Taking a very patient-centered approach Dr. Lawrence talks about what he calls “Psychotropic Blindness” and what happens when psychiatrists see the side effects of certain medications in children and adolescents as emerging p…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 26 Dr. Susan Johnson on Emotionally Focused Therapy
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1:21:49Dr. Susan Johnson joins us to talk about her pioneering work in Emotionally Focused Therapy. EFT is a way to practice couples counseling that is overwhelmingly supported by scientific research. Dr. Johnson talks about attachment theory as the basis for EFT but also talks about some of the other frameworks she has drawn from. She talks not only abou…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 25 Divorce Mediation with Barry Davis
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1:02:03How do you keep a family together even as it’s coming apart? How do you help protect children from the trauma of a nasty divorce? Divorce mediator Barry Davis sits down with us to talk about an alternative to expensive, divisive and often traumatic litigated divorces. His approach is one that allows families to often make the best of what can be a …
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Talking Therapy Ep. 24 The Human Emotional System with Adrian Hall, MFT
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1:05:11Human emotions are a tricky thing. Some of us are good with them, some of us are not, but few of us really understand them fully. Adrian Hall, MFT joins us to talk about what she calls, the Human Emotional System. As we grow up, she tells us, we learn about math, science, history and our biological systems, but no one teaches us about our emotions …
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Talking Therapy Ep. 23 Self Communion with Jason Gipstein, MFT
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1:08:47Jason Gipstein, MFT sits down with us to talk about writing a book on what he calls self communion. Jason talks about how he developed this method of psychotherapy and how it can help people. Not only does he discuss it’s application to issues like anxiety and depression he also talks about how it can be used to help people move forward and continu…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 22 A Very Special Update with John and RJ
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35:59John and RJ sit down to discuss the status of the show and how they've really just been kind of lazy about the whole thing... well, maybe not entirely. This is actually a fun conversation about not only the status of the show but about what's it's like dealing with personal stress and working as a psychotherapist.…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 21 Saving Psychotherapy with Dr. Benjamin Caldwell
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1:13:07We know therapy works, but as it turns out fewer people are using it. What are the reasons for this and can an individual therapist make a living in this otherwise rewarding field? Is it possible to turn things around? Dr. Benjamin Caldwell sits down with us to talk about his book “Saving Psychotherapy.” He has a plan and some straightforward advic…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 20 Collaborating With a Psychiatrist with Dr. Amir Ettekal, MD
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1:16:29Dr. Ettekal joins us to talk about collaborating with therapists and some of the things he worries about when working with patients. He also talks about his approach to medication and psychotherapy.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 19 Sports and Performance Psychology with Dr. Jacob Insler.mp3
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1:06:14Dr. Jacob Insler joins us to talk about sports and perfomance psychology. Dr. Inlser works with athletes to help them perform better or to overcome obstacles in their game.
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Talking Therapy Ep 18 Self-Injury and Family Systems with Angela Kahn, MFT
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1:34:50Cutting can be one of the most challenging things any therapist deals with. Angela Kahn, MFT sits down with us to talk about her unique team-based approach to family therapy when treating self-injury. She discusses the two primary kinds of self-injury, how to distinguish between them and how she and her team approach assessment, conceptualization a…
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John and RJ discuss what scares us and why we love Halloween so much.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 16 Body Psychotherapy with Dr. Marjorie Rand, MFT
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1:04:26Dr. Marjorie Rand, MFT joins us to talk about her work using body psychotherapy. She also touches on her 40-year career and her experiences learning from and working with some of the great names in the field.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 15 NARM with Dr. Nadine Macaluso, LMFT
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1:00:39Nadine Macaluso, LMFT, PhD joins us to talk about her practice using the NeuroAffective Relational Model (NARM) to work with clients. She also touches on what lead to her to becoming a therapist and what it’s like to have a part of her life portrayed in a Hollywood movie.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 14 Military Sexual Trauma with Dr. Kristen Zaleski, LCSW
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56:58Kristen Zaleski, PhD, LCSW joins us to talk about working with survivors of military sexual trauma. Dr. Zaleski is a therapist in private practice, researcher and professor.
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Jody Echegary, PsyD joins us to talk about how media affects personality development, interpersonal relations and the therapeutic relationship. This far ranging discussion goes in depth on the importance of understanding media in therapy and what it can tell us about who we are.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 12 Behavior and Empathy with Shana Diskant, MFT
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1:06:38Shana Diskant talks to us about her work as a Marriage and Family Therapist. She mixes family therapy and behavior work when working with children. Shana began her therapy career woring with victims of traumatic brain injury and still uses what she learned there to help families.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 11 Horsing Around with Trina O'Quinn, MFT
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1:00:31Trina O’Quinn talks with us about learning equine assisted Eagala Therapy, what it means to study theory and starting off a new venture at a time when most people would be thinking of retiring.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 10 Writing the Book with Kevin Bergen, MFT
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1:11:11Kevin Bergen, MFT talks to us about how he wrote his new book The Bergen Protocol. He discusses the struggles and successes of the process and tells us how he created the protocol at the heart of the book.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 9 Mind and Body with Dr. Elisabeth Crim
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56:18Dr. Elisabeth Crim talks to us about her mind/body approach to psychotherapy using a psychodynamic approach as well as yoga and acupuncture. She also discusses her work with other therapists around the idea of compassion fatigue.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 8 The Art of Talk Therapy with Thomas Carouso, MFT
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50:57Thomas Carouso, MFT sits down with us to talk about his journey to becoming a therapist and why therapy is more art than science.
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Talking Therapy Ep.7 - Talking Sex with Liz Dube, LMFT
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1:10:58Liz Dube, MFT, AASECT Certified Sex Therapist sits down with us to talk sex. Liz talks about how she works with clients dealing with sexual issues and how other therapists can approach the topic in ways that make clients feel comfotable and heard.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 6 Grief and Loss with Certified Thanatologist Jerry Wilson
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1:24:58Jerry Wilson, LMFT sits down with us to discuss working with grief and loss as well as his very personal reasons for engaging in this kind of work.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 5 Reproductive Mental Health with Stephanie Morales LMFT
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57:20Stephanie Morales, LMFT joins us for episode 5 (not 6, 7 or 8) to talk about helping moms, dads and families with issues surrounding reproductive mental health. Whether it’s postpartum depression, anxiety or even psychosis, Stephanie’s passion is evident and infectious.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 4 Psychological Testing with Dr. Joel Schwartz
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36:52Dr. Joel Schwartz sits down with to talk about Psychological testing, including which is his favorite test to administer and how therapists and testing psychologists can work together.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 3 Stuctural Family Therapy with Jon Kramer LCSW
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1:13:49Jon Kramer, LCSW sits down to talk about using structural family therapy, why it works, how it works and why it's important to keep people talking to each other. He also discusses his work with couples and the vital tool of paying attention to your shoes.
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Talking Therapy Ep. 2 - Dr Michael Collins
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1:22:24What is like to not be the blank slate as a therapist? Dr. Michael Collins, PsyD. joins us to talk about what it’s like living a dual career. He talks about his very public life as an activist in a small town and maintaining a private practice as a therapist. Mike also tells some wonderful stories about his work and supervision - both as a supervis…
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Talking Therapy Ep. 1 - Middle School Counselor Rachel Andrews
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54:27Middle School Counselor Rachel Andrews joins us to discuss what it's like working with kids in a school environment and how therapists in private practice can collaborate with school counselors.
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