The Dynamist, a podcast by the Foundation for American Innovation, brings together the most important thinkers and doers to discuss the future of technology, governance, and innovation. The Dynamist is hosted by Evan Swarztrauber, former Policy Advisor at the Federal Communications Commission. Subscribe now!
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Finding the Middle of Social Media w/Renee DiResta and Luke Hogg
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58:11Mark Zuckerberg sent shockwaves around the world when Meta announced the end of its fact-checking program in the U.S. on its platforms Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. Critics lamented the potential for more mis/disinformation online while proponents (especially conservatives) rejoiced, as they saw the decision as a rollback of political censorshi…
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Building American Talent: Education as National Security w/Melissa Moritz, Sara Schapiro, Dan Lips, and Robert Bellafiore
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39:03During the pandemic, Congress spent an unprecedented $190 billion to help reopen schools and address learning loss. But new test scores show the investment isn't paying off - fourth and eighth grade reading levels have hit record lows, performing worse than even during COVID's peak. As the Trump administration signals dramatic changes to federal ed…
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America's Education Emergency w/Chester Finn, Dan Lips, and Robert Bellafiore
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48:47During the pandemic from 2020 to 2021, Congress dropped $190 billion to help reopen schools, provide tutoring, and assist with remote learning. The results? Fourth graders' math scores have plummeted 18 points from 2019-2023, eighth graders’ have dropped 27 points - the worst decline since testing began in 1995. Adult literacy is deteriorating too,…
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Unbreaking Bureaucracy: State Capacity 101 w/Jennifer Pahlka and Andrew Greenway
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59:38The newly established Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has put state capacity back in the spotlight, reigniting debates over whether the federal government is fundamentally broken or just mismanaged. With Elon Musk at the helm, DOGE has already taken drastic actions, from shutting down USAID to slashing bureaucratic redundancies. Supporte…
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A Little Tech Agenda for 2025 w/Garry Tan and Jon Askonas
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49:42At Trump's second inauguration, one of the biggest stories, if not the biggest, was the front-row presence of Big Tech CEOs like Google’s Sundar Pichai and Meta’s Mark Zuckerberg—placed even ahead of Cabinet members. As the plum seating signaled a striking shift in Silicon Valley's relationship with Washington, just 24 hours later, the administrati…
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DeepSeek: Deep Trouble for U.S. AI? w/Tim Fist and Sam Hammond
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47:23Chinese AI startup DeepSeek’s release of AI reasoning model R1 sent NVIDIA and other tech stocks tumbling yesterday as investors questioned whether U.S. companies were spending too much on AI development. That’s because DeepSeek claims it made this model for only $6 million, a fraction of the hundreds of millions that OpenAI spent making o1, its ne…
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Copyright vs. AI Part 4: The Road Ahead w/Tim Hwang and Josh Levine
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59:08As revelations about Meta's use of pirated books for AI training send shockwaves through the tech industry, the battle over copyright and AI reaches a critical juncture. In this final episode of The Dynamist's series on AI and copyright, Evan is joined by FAI's Senior Fellow Tim Hwang and Tech Policy Manager Joshua Levine to discuss how these legal…
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Copyright vs. AI Part 3: IP and Cybersecurity w/Jason Zhao, Jamil N. Jaffer, and Tim Hwang
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39:35In the third installment of The Dynamist's series exploring AI and copyright, FAI Senior Fellow Tim Hwang leads a forward-looking discussion about how market dynamics, technological solutions, and geopolitics could reshape today's contentious battles over AI training data. Joined by Jason Zhao, co-founder of Story AI, and Jamil Jaffer, Executive Di…
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Copyright Versus AI Part 2: Hollywood and Creators
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59:15From the SAG-AFTRA picket lines to the New York Times lawsuit against OpenAI, the battle over AI's role in creative industries is heating up. In this second episode of The Dynamist's series on AI and copyright, we dive into the messy reality of how artists, creators, and tech companies are navigating this rapidly evolving landscape. Our guests brin…
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Copyright Versus AI Part 1: The Legal Battle w/Pamela Samuelson
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46:03Copyright law and artificial intelligence are on a collision course, with major implications for the future of AI development, research, and innovation. In this first episode of The Dynamist's four-part series exploring AI and copyright, we're joined by Professor Pamela Samuelson of Berkeley Law, a pioneering scholar in intellectual property law an…
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The Future of Digital War w/Kevin Kennedy
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58:16As we approach the three-year mark of the war in Ukraine, and conflict continues to rage in the Middle East, technology has played a key role in these arenas—from cyber attacks and drones to propaganda efforts over social media. In Ukraine, SpaceX’s Starlink has blurred the lines between commercial and military communications, with the satellite br…
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Looking Forward, Looking Back: a 2024 Tech Policy ‘Wrapped’ w/Luke Hogg and Josh Levine
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51:092024 has been a whirlwind year for tech policy, filled with landmark moments that could shape the industry for years to come. From the high-profile antitrust lawsuits aimed at Big Tech to intense discussions around data privacy and online safety for kids, the spotlight on how technology impacts our daily lives has never been brighter. Across the At…
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Age Gates & Free Speech: The Texas Porn Law Debate w/Adam Candeub and Robert Corn-Revere
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1:07:38There is growing concern among parents and policymakers over the Internet’s harms to children—from online pornography to social media. Despite that, Congress hasn’t passed any legislation on children’s online safety in decades. And while psychologists continue to debate whether and to what extent certain Internet content harms children, several sta…
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Is Medicare a ‘Valley of Death’ for Innovation? w/Katie Meyer
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31:44Is Medicare a valley of death for medical innovation? While the U.S. is seen as a global leader in medical device innovation, the $800+ billion program that covers healthcare costs for senior citizens has been slow to reimburse certain medical devices, even when those devices are approved by the Food and Drug Administration. On average, it takes Me…
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How Regulators Should Approach Big Tech and Corporate Power w/ Andrew Ferguson
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59:47The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is a once sleepy, three-letter agency in Washington that serves as the nation’s general purpose consumer protection regulator—dealing with everything from deceptive advertising to fraud. In recent years, however, the FTC has become somewhat of a household name thanks to current chair Lina Khan and high-profile cas…
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Elon, Vivek, and Government Efficiency w/Sam Hammond and Dan Lips
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43:10President-elect Trump recently announced that entrepreneurs Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will lead the Department of Government Efficiency. Musk had forecast the idea in the tail end of the presidential election, championing a commission focused on cutting government spending and regulation. In a statement posted to Truth Social, the president-ele…
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Donald Trump won the 2024 presidential election, Republicans won control of the Senate, and the GOP is slated to maintain control of the House. If you turn on cable news, you will see many pundits playing monday morning quarterback in the wake of this Republican trifecta, arguing about the merits of how people voted, speculating on cabinet secretar…
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From Quantum Realm to Quantum Reality with Travis Scholten
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51:40When people hear 'quantum physics,' they often think of sci-fi movies using terms like 'quantum realm' to explain away the impossible. But today we're talking about quantum computing, which has moved beyond science fiction into reality. Companies like IBM and Google are racing to build machines that could transform medicine, energy storage, and our…
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When voters head to the polls next week, tech policy won't be top of mind—polling shows immigration, the economy, abortion, and democracy are the primary concerns. Yet Silicon Valley's billionaire class is playing an outsized role in this election, throwing millions at candidates and super PACs while offering competing visions for America's technol…
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Should Conservatives Embrace Elon Musk? w/Chris Griswold
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53:23Over the past few years, Elon Musk’s political evolution has been arguably as rapid and disruptive as one of his tech ventures. He has transformed from a political moderate to a vocal proponent of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement and his outspokenness on issues like illegal immigration make him an outlier among tech entrepreneurs and CEOs. Musk's…
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Tech Coup: Has Silicon Valley Become A Shadow Government? w/ Marietje Schaake
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53:13Have tech companies become more powerful than governments? As the size and reach of firms like Google and Apple have increased, there is growing concern that these multi-trillion dollar companies are too powerful and have started replacing important government functions. The products and services of these tech giants are ubiquitous and pillars of m…
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Gov. Newsom Vetoes Controversial AI Bill w/ Dean Ball & Sam Hammond
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1:03:52On September 29th, Governor Newsom vetoed SB 1047, a controversial bill aimed at heading off catastrophic risks of large AI models. We previously covered the bill on The Dynamist in episode 64. In a statement, Newsom cited the bill’s “stringent standards to even the most basic functions” and said he does “not believe this is the best approach to pr…
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A ‘Public Option’ for the Gig Economy? w/Wingham Rowan
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49:10Since the advent of platforms like Uber, Instacart, and DoorDash, the so-called gig economy has been intertwined with technology. While the apps no doubt created loads of opportunity for people seeking flexible work on their own schedules, they have been lambasted by critics who say they don’t provide drivers and grocery shoppers with a minimum wag…
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Nuclear Power: Fear, Cost, and Politics w/ Emmet Penney & Thomas Hochman
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1:07:30When the average person thinks of nuclear energy, there’s a good chance they’re thinking in terms influenced by pop culture—Homer Simpson’s union job at the Springfield plant, or the HBO miniseries Chernobyl, which dramatized the world’s biggest meltdown. For all its promise in the mid-20th century, U.S. nuclear energy largely stalled in the 1970s …
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What Should Be Done About Misinformation? w/Renée DiResta
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1:14:06The recent riots in the United Kingdom raise new questions about online free speech and misinformation. Following the murder of three children in Southport, England, false rumors spread across social media about the killer’s identity and religion, igniting simmering resentment over the British government’s handling of immigration in recent years. X…
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Minnesota Governor Tim Walz has made headlines for being picked as Vice President Kamala Harris’s running mate. One underreported aspect of his record is signing Minnesota’s first “right to repair” law last year. The bill took effect last month. The concept sounds simple enough: if you buy something like a phone or a car, you should have the right …
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Scarlett Johansson’s Voice in Congress w/ Luke Hogg & Josh Levine
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53:16OpenAI unleashed a controversy when the famed maker of Chat GPT debuted its new voice assistant Sky. The problem? For many, her voice sounded eerily similar to that of Scarlett Johansson, who had ironically starred in the dystopian movie Her about a man, played by Joaquin Phoenix, who developed a romantic relationship with a virtual assistant. Whil…
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J.D. Vance and the Future of the Right w/Oren Cass, Marshall Kosloff, & Jon Askonas
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1:04:11Trump’s pick of J.D. Vance as his running mate is seen by many as the culmination of a years-long realignment of Republican and conservative politics—away from trickle-down economics toward a more populist, worker-oriented direction. While the pick ushered in a flood of reactions and think pieces, it’s unclear at this stage what Vance’s impact woul…
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SCOTUS Rules on State Social Media Laws w/Daphne Keller
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57:59On July 1, the Supreme Court issued a 9-0 ruling in NetChoice v. Moody, a case on Florida and Texas’s social media laws aimed at preventing companies like Facebook and YouTube from discriminating against users based on their political beliefs. The court essentially kicked the cases back down to lower courts, the Fifth and Eleventh Circuits, because…
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Reindustrializing America w/ Austin Bishop & Jon Askonas
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1:09:36It’s time for American industry’s Lazarus moment. At least, that’s what a growing coalition of contrarian builders, investors, technologists, and policymakers have asserted over the past several years. American might was built on our industrial base. As scholars like Arthur Herman detail in Freedom’s Forge, the United States won World War 2 with in…
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Hard Tech on the Space Coast w/ Andrew Côté & Jon Askonas
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1:00:37For this special edition episode, FAI Senior Fellow Jon Askonas flew down to Palm Bay, FL to mix and mingle with the brightest minds in aerospace, manufacturing, and defense at the Space Coast Hard Tech Hackathon, organized by stealth founder Spencer Macdonald (also an FAI advisor). Jon sits down with a friend of the show and Hyperstition founder A…
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How the Valley Turned Silicon into Gold and Power w/ Rob Lalka
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55:13Silicon Valley was once idolized for creating innovations that seemed like modern miracles. But the reputations of tech entrepreneurs have been trending downward of late, as Big Tech companies are blamed for any number of societal ills, from violating users’ privacy and eroding teenagers’ mental health, to spreading misinformation and undermining d…
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Is Big Tech Co-Opting Startups? w/ Adam Rogers
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53:28This is how many assume the tech economy is supposed to work. Big, established companies are at risk of getting disrupted as they get set in their ways; the internal bureaucracies grow too large and they lose their nimbleness and take fewer risks. The pressure from upstarts forces larger firms to innovate – otherwise, they lose market share and may…
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Tornado (Cash) Warning w/ Peter Van Valkenburgh
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1:01:29Tornado Cash is a decentralized cryptocurrency mixing service built on Ethereum. Its open-source protocol allows users to obscure the trail of their cryptocurrency transactions by pooling funds together, making it difficult to trace the origin and destination of any given transfer. In August 2022, the U.S. Treasury Department took the unprecedented…
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Is America’s ‘Free-Market’ a Myth? w/Rob Atkinson
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54:05Social media undermines democracy. Small businesses are more innovative than big ones. Corporate profits are at all-time highs. America’s secret weapon is laissez-faire capitalism. These are widely held beliefs, but are they true? Our guest today argues that these statements aren’t just wrong, but that they’re holding America back—discouraging tale…
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Can We Be Ready for the Next Pandemic? w/ Swati Sureka
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43:01Is American ready for the next pandemic? The answer is a resounding “no,” according to a recent Washington Post editorial. When the U.S. was caught flat-footed and unprepared to deal with COVID-19, many lawmakers vowed to address pandemic preparedness. Yet, according to many experts, these efforts are inadequate and interest among lawmakers in prep…
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California Comes for AI w/ Brian Chau & Dean Ball
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59:46When it comes to AI regulation, states are moving faster than the federal government. While California is the hub of American AI innovation (Google, OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta are all headquartered in the Valley), the state is also poised to enact some of the strictest state regulations on frontier AI development. Introduced on February 8, the Saf…
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How to Win the New Cold War w/ Michael Sobolik
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57:10Is America in a new Cold War with China? If so, who is winning? One of the defining features of the 21st century has been the intensifying competition between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party. As the two superpowers jockey for global influence, China threatens to dislodge America’s longstanding role atop the international order. At…
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LIVE: Beff Jezos, Andrew Côté, & Sam Hammond on the Future of AI
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59:08Should we accelerate into the AI future or proceed with caution? Do we even have a choice? From deep-tech disruptors to policymaking under time pressure, a battle over the fate of human civilization is now being waged on multiple fronts: Closed vs. Open, Hardware vs. Software, Safety vs. Ethics: in sum, Order vs. Chaos. Foundation for American Inn…
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The Internet of Things is Less Secure Than You Think w/FCC Commissioner Simington
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1:05:27The number of internet-connected devices in the world has skyrocketed. According to one estimate, there are currently 17 billion connected devices in the world. This doesn’t just include well known electronics like laptops and smartphones. These devices span every sector of the global economy—from agriculture and manufacturing to healthcare and sci…
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Debate: Should TikTok Divest or Face a Ban?
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1:02:16This week, President Biden signed into law a bill that would require TikTok to divest itself from Chinese parent company ByteDance or else face a ban in the United States. The legislation was part of a package of bills that included foreign aid to Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine. Over the past few years, TikTok has exploded in popularity. Today over 17…
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Will Congress Tackle FBI Spying? w/ David DiMolfetta
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51:04In the U.S., there is supposed to be some division between domestic and foreign police activities. The CIA handles overseas activities, while the FBI and local police agencies handle domestic law enforcement. Because as the Internet is inherently borderless, Americans’ emails, texts, and phone calls are inevitably captured in overseas intelligence …
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Cloak and Data: The New Surveillance State w/Byron Tau
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45:27In the digital world, there is an enduring tension between privacy and security. What is our right to privacy from the government or the companies whose services we use? What rights does our government have to surveil us in the name of national security? Most of us have a general understanding of the basic tradeoff in the Internet era—you give up s…
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Is the Internet Broken? w/Frank McCourt, Jr.
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52:10Is the Internet broken? The original promise of this great invention is that it would offer a platform for free information exchange, empowering individual users worldwide. It would spread democracy and knowledge. It would surface the best and brightest from around the world. It would empower individuals over elites. Many, including our guest, argu…
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Congress Plays TikTok-Toe w/Adam Kovacevich & Nathan Leamer
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53:30On March 13, the U.S. House of Representatives voted 352 to 65 on the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act. This bill is aimed at forcing ByteDance, a Chinese tech company, to divest its subsidiary TikTok or face a ban of the popular social media app in the U.S. In practical terms, if a suitable divestiture doesn’…
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Beeper Tries to Burst Apple’s Bubble w/Eric Migicovsky
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53:48Are you an Android user? Have you been ridiculed for the dreaded green text bubble, or been accused of “messing up the group chat?” In December, the tech company Beeper tried to bridge the Android-iPhone divide. They launched Beeper Mini, an app that gave Android users access to iMessage functionality. The app immediately took off, gaining over a h…
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Conservative Futurism w/Jim Pethokoukis, Jon Askonas, & Robert Bellafiore
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55:31Many conservatives lament a decades-long stagnation of innovation. As Peter Thiel once quipped, “We wanted flying cars, instead we got 140 characters.” The rise of AI and other transformative technologies may augur an end to this stagnation, according to thinkers like Marc Andreessen, who joined The Dynamist recently to discuss techno-optimism. Oth…
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A Supreme Debate on Social Media w/ Carl Szabo & Adam Candeub
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1:07:32In our inaugural live recording ofThe Dynamist, FAI hosted a debate on two upcoming Supreme Court cases, Moody v. NetChoice and NetChoice v. Paxton. These cases could have major implications for online free speech and whether states can regulate the practices of Big Tech platforms. Over the past ten years, the debate over how companies and governme…
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China's Influence in Entertainment w/ Chris Fenton
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47:40One of the ways the Chinese government looks to exert influence is by changing the behavior of businesses and individuals who operate in China. Remember the firestorm that occurred when Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey sent a tweet in support of the Hong Kong protests? NBA games were taken off the air in China, and a series of profuse ap…
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The Worldwide Web of Online Privacy w/Jennifer Huddleston
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49:10By Jennifer Huddleston, Evan Swarztrauber
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