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Mind Over Murder

William F. Thomas and Kristin M. Dilley

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Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim's advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Virginia. Bill is an entertainment executive who is also the brother of a murder victim, now living in Connecticut. His sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in the still unsolved Colonial Parkway Murders ,which claimed the lives of 8 young people near Williamsburg from 1986 to 1989. They ...
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"American Demon: Eliot Ness and the Hunt for America's Jack the Ripper" is the new book by New York Times bestselling author Daniel Stashower. Dan joins Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley for a fascinating discussion of an amazing unsolved case from Cleveland in the 1930's, after Eliot Ness had led "The Untouchables" to true …
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Dan Harrington, Gil Harrington and Jane Lillian Vance, founders of "Help Save the Next Girl," join us to discuss the good work of their organization, founded after the brutal murder of Dan and Gil's 20 year old daughter Morgan Harrington in October 2009. We talk about the book that Gil and Jane co-wrote, "Morgan Harrington: Murdered and Dead for Go…
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Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the "Engage with Empathy" campaign championed by Sarah Turney, Julie Murray and Kelsi German Siebert, all three siblings of murder victims. Can true crime podcasters, reporters and other users of social media interact with the families of murder victims in a more respon…
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Dan Harrington, Gil Harrington and Jane Lillian Vance, founders of "Help Save the Next Girl," join us to discuss the good work of their organization, founded after the brutal murder of Dan and Gil's 20 year old daughter Morgan Harrington in October 2009. We talk about the book that Gil and Jane co-wrote, "Morgan Harrington Murdered Dead and for Goo…
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"Lady of the Dunes" Ruth Marie Terry's husband Guy Maldevin may prove to be her killer, now that her identity has been finally revealed thanks to Investigative Genetic Genealogy. Maldevin, a long-time conman, may be involved in several other murders beyond Cape Cod, including that of his former wife and step daughter in Seattle in 1960, and possibl…
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Veteran Southern California prosecutor Matt Murphy joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the hot topic of should Lyle and Erik Menendez be released from prison 35 years after brutally murdering their parents Kitty and Jose Menendez with shotguns? Does Lyle and Erik's claim that their father Jose sexually abused th…
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"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss new legal strategies being used in the Hae Min Lee/Adnan Syed murder case, the 1965 Malcom X assassination settlement, and a new lawsuit filed in the murder of Army Private Vanessa Guillen at Fort Hood, Texas. Can these methods provide some sort of rough justice? This bonus episode …
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley review the August 2009 murders of Virginia Tech students Heidi Childs and David Metzler, still unsolved after 15 years. Can advanced DNA techniques solve this tragic case of two undergrads found shot to death in a place called Caldwell Fields? How has the Virginia Tech community been touched s…
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Real Crime Profile hosts Jim Clemente and Laura Richards join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the new developments in the Colonial Parkway Murders. This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on January 18, 2024. Confirmed serial killer Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. has been named as the murderer of Robin Ed…
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Matt Murphy, renowned California prosecutor and now legal analyst for ABC News, joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his new "The Book of Murder: A Prosecutors Journey Through Love and Death." In this deep dive into murder and its aftermath, Matt walks readers through some of the most complex and diabolical cases…
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With a confirmed serial killer, Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. being named in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the exciting news, our support for the three families who received the good news and lay out our support for next steps in the FBI and Virginia State Police investigation o…
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Jeffrey Smalldon talks with "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley about his new book, "That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Fifty Years of Conversations with Killers." He recounts his many face to face conversations with murderers like John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, serial sniper Thomas Lee Dillon, Donald…
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"Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley offer our reaction to the first solve announced in the Colonial Parkway Murders. On Monday, January 8, 2024, Virginia State Police, Hampton Police Department and the FBI announced that a deceased waterman, Alan Wade Wilmer, Senior of Lancaster County, Virginia had been linked via DNA hit to…
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Jeffrey Smalldon talks with "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley about his new book, "That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Fifty Years of Conversations with Killers." He recounts his many face to face conversations with murderers like John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, serial sniper Thomas Lee Dillon, Donald…
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Author Bruce Goldfarb joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his book "18 Tiny Deaths: The Untold Story of Frances Glessner Lee and the Invention of Modern Forensics." The book tells the story of heiress Frances Glessner Lee, whose lifelong interest in crimesolving led to an innovative training program for law enfo…
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Edna Cowell Martin, cousin to serial killer Ted Bundy, joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book, cowritten with Megan Atkinson, "Dark Tide: Growing Up With Ted Bundy." How well do we really know the people around us? What would you do if you learned your family's secrets? Are their truly monsters among u…
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M William Phelps, the prolific true crime author of 45 true crime books and host of numerous television series including "Dark Minds," joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about his two highly successful podcasts "Paper Ghosts" and "Crossing the Line." This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on April…
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Denise Huskins and Aaron Quinn join "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss their book, co-written with Nicole Weisensee Egan, "Victim F: From Crime Victims to Suspects to Survivors," which tells the shocking true story of their bizarre 2015 kidnapping and the revictimization by the justice system in Vallejo, California, …
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With a confirmed serial killer, Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. being named in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss whether same sex couples were targeted in the Colonial Parkway Murders. Several of the sites of murders in this series were commited at locations where there was a lot of g…
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Nina Innsted, host of the "Already Gone" podcast and the "Missing in Michigan" Facebook page joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss why some missing persons posts on social media turn out to be scams, why fake notices like these hurt real efforts to find missing people, and how to avoid these scams. Why do people r…
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Retired NYPD Homicide Detective Sargent Joe Giacalone joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss happenings in true crime, including the Karen Read case in Boston, the upcoming Idaho 4 trial of Bryan Kohberger, the Long Island Serial Killer/Giglo Beach 4 suspect Rex Huermann, and much more. This bonus episode of "Mind …
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Janette Edwards Santiago, older sister of Colonial Parkway Murders victim Robin Edwards, shares her thoughts on getting answers in her sister and David Knobling's murder with "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. On January 8, 2024, Virginia State Police and FBI investigators announced that deceased suspect Alan Wade Wilmer Sr…
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"The Serial Killer's Apprentice: The True Story of How Houston's Deadliest Murderer Turned a Kid Into a Killing Machine" is the new book by authors Katherine Ramsland and Tracy Ullman. The authors join us for a fascinating discussion of killers Dean Corll, David Brooks and Elmer Wayne Henley worked together as victims and perpetrators. This bonus e…
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Author Reginald L Reed, Jr. joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss his powerful new memoir, "The Day My Mother Never Came Home." The book tells the story of the murder of Reggie's mother Selonia when Reggie was only 6 years old, and the indictment and trial of his father some 32 years later for his wife's cold case…
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Dr. Mike Aamodt, the founder of the Serial Killer Database joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss how the database came into existence, how it helps academics, students and law enforcement investigators understand the lives and minds of serial killer, including Colonial Parkway Murders serial killer Alan Wade Wi…
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the new article by Dublin based writer Mark O'Connell, "John Hinckley Jr and the Madness of American Political Violence," which ran in the New York Times Magazine on July 25, 2024. This new episode is Part 2 of 2. NYT: John Hinckley Jr and the Madness of American Political Violence htt…
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In this bonus episode from 2022, Author Mark Olshaker joins Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent release of John Hinckley, Jr. the man who attempted to assassinate former President Ronald Reagan in 1981. Hinckley will be living in Williamsburg, Virginia after his release from from supervision following a le…
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the new article by Dublin based writer Mark O'Connell, "John Hinckley Jr and the Madness of American Political Violence," which ran in the New York Times Magazine on July 25, 2024. This new episode is Part 1 of 2. NYT: John Hinckley Jr and the Madness of American Political Violence htt…
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Nationally known polygraph examiner and private detective Lisa Ribacoff joins "Mind Over Murder" co-host Bill Thomas to discuss how the FBI used a polygraph exam to ID then suspect Alan Wade Wilmer Sr as one of the responsible parties for the 1988 disappearance of Keith Call and Cassandra Hailey in the Colonial Parkway Murders. Despite much corrobo…
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss Kristin's new research into how the CODIS System helps solve crime. How does CODIS work? Why do we have different CODIS policies in 50 different states? Can we make this system a better tool for solving crime? FBI Frequently Asked Questions on CODIS and NDIS https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-…
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Renee Williams, Executive Director of the National Center for Victims of Crime joins us to go over "8 Simple Rules for Being an Ethical True Crime Consumer." Mind Over Murder cohosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley join Renee for a fantastic conversation about how true crime media is changing-- for the better. This bonus episode of "mind Over Murder…
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss unsolved cases in Virginia with reporter and radio host Courteney Stuart of WINA Charlottesville. Cases include the Colonial Parkway Murders, the Route 29 Stalker, and the Shenandoah National Park Murders of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, followed by the the bizarre death of Darrell…
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Producer and podcast host Jennifer Amell and survivor and case advocate Jane Boroski join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about "Dark Valley," their new podcast which covers the unsolved Connecticut River Valley Killings. Dark Valley explores a fascinating true crime case which warrants further investigation and d…
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Bestselling author Ron Peterson Jr joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to talk about his brand new book "In the Wind: The Disappearance of Janice Starr" which tells the story of groundbreaking female detective Kay Shucker, who helped solve the case of an Old Dominion University student who went missing in 1981. It …
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Ashley Spence, the head of the DNA Justice Project and a survivor of sexual assault herself, joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her personal story of survival, how the CODIS system works to help solve cases including sexual assault and murder, and how the DNA Justice Project is working with legislators aroun…
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"Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the bizarre death of Darrell David Rice, a longtime suspect in the Shenandoah National Park murders of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans. Rice was exonerated after the FBI and National Park Service announced that Walter "Leo" Jackson had been linked to the Williams/Winans murder via DNA…
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Steve French, the host of the "Unsolved Mysteries" podcast joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the popular podcast version of the legendary TV show, his career in voiceover, how the mix of supernatural and true crime topics works, and how much he has learned about working in the true crime space over the last fe…
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Join "Mind Over Murder hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the recent FBI/Virginia State Police Press Conferences announcing suspects ID's in the Colonial Parkway Murders (suspect Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr.) and Shenadoah Murders of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans (suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson Sr.) Are these press conferences with law …
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Veteran reporter and television news anchor Carol Costello joins "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new true crime podcast, "Carol Costello Presents Blind Rage," which tells the shocking story of Phyllis Cottle, who was attacked in March 1984. Carol Costello covered the story as a rookie TV reporter. She also …
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Join "Mind Over Murder hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the recent article in the Virginian Pilot and Daily Press, "FBI Suspects Northern Neck Man in Second Colonial Parkway Murders Case, Families Told." Why are the FBI and Virginia State Police telling Colonial Parkway Murders families on thing behind closed doors, and refusing…
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Kathryn "Kate" Miles, bestselling author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenadoah Murders" joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent FBI announcement that the 1996 murder of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans has been solved. With the news that deceased suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson, Sr. h…
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Kathryn "Kate" Miles, bestselling author of "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenadoah Murders" joins "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the recent FBI announcement that the 1996 murder of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans has been solved. With the news that deceased suspect Walter "Leo" Jackson, Sr. h…
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Kathryn "Kate" Miles, author of the award winning true crime book "Trailed: One Woman's Quest to Solve the Shenandoah Murders," talks of the impact of the book on the 1996 murder case of Julie Williams and Lollie Winans, as well as on her own life as an author and outdoorswoman. Published in hardcover and audiobook in 2022, the paperback of "Traile…
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Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley and our MC, Sheryl "Mac" McCollum, with our live panel discussion at CrimeCon 2024 in Nashville, held May 30, 2024. This live recording is courtesy of the team at CrimeCon. Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Park…
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Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we report on our 3 day trip to CrimeCon 2024 in Nashville, held May 30-June 1, 2024. This is part 2 of 2 parts, and discusses legendary FBI profiler John Douglas, John Walsh of "America's Most Wanted," the Gabby Petito Foundation, author Nikki Egan and the true story behind "Victim …
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Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we report on our 3 day trip to CrimeCon 2024 in Nashville, held May 30-June 1, 2024. This is part 1 of 2 parts. Won't you help the Mind Over Murder podcast increase our visibility and shine the spotlight on the "Colonial Parkway Murders" and other unsolved cases? Contribute any amou…
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With a confirmed serial killer, Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. being named in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the how Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. would be profiled with former FBI Profilers James Fitzgerald and Dr. Raymond Carr. Part 2 of 2 parts with Fitz and Ray. This bonus episode orig…
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With a confirmed serial killer, Alan Wade Wilmer, Sr. being named in the Colonial Parkway Murders in Virginia, "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley discuss the how Alan Wade Wilmer Sr. would be profiled with former FBI Profilers James Fitzgerald and Dr. Raymond Carr. Part 1 of 2 parts with Fitz and Ray. This bonus episode orig…
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Andrea Lankford, former National Park Service Ranger joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss her new book "Trail of the Lost: The Relentless Search to Bring Home the Missing Hikers of the Paficic Crest Trail." This bonus episode of "Mind Over Murder" originally ran on January 25, 2024. "Trail of the Lost" was announ…
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Reknowned investigator Lindsey Wade, author of the new book "In My DNA: My Career Investigating Your Worst Nightmares" (nominated for a CrimeCon CLUE Award) joins "Mind Over Murder" hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley to discuss the CODIS Gap. Why are so many offenders, including rapists, murderers and even serial killers not found in the CODIS DN…
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