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Bush & Banter

Jennifer Mabus and Dyana Carmella

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An outdoor-inspired and topic-driven podcast hosted by thru-hikers Jennifer Mabus and Dyana Carmella where they interview people way cooler than they'll ever be.
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana explore the power of creating an alter ego—and how it can help you land your dream job, break bad habits, or even conquer a thru-hike. When life gets tough, stepping into an alter ego can help you get out of your own way and tap into strengths you already have. They share how their own trail personas carried them thro…
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In our latest episode, we sit down with athlete, author, and outdoor enthusiast Anthony Porter—a true multi-hyphenate known for his skills in archery, knife throwing, and parkour. These days, Anthony is best known for his educational and entertaining outdoor videos that explore nature conservation, wildlife, and survival skills. Anthony opens up ab…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with Australian adventurer and thru-hiker Cam Bostock—best known for his stunning outdoor exploration videos and epic long-distance hikes. Based in Western Australia, Cam has taken on some of the world’s most iconic trails, including New Zealand’s 1,864-mile Te Araroa Trail, the 2,650-mile Pacific Crest Trail (PC…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana sit down with renowned Canadian trick rider Bella Da Costa, whose high-speed, gravity-defying performances have earned her championship titles and captivated audiences everywhere. Bella shares insights into the deep bond between riders and their horses, how the confidence gained in the arena translates into real life,…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana invite you aboard their (imaginary) private jet as they embark on a global adventure, picking their favorite destinations from TIME Magazine’s The World’s Greatest Places of 2025. Their journey takes them to Peru’s towering Alta Sanctuary treehouse, the rugged Nangma Valley Trek in Pakistan, the futuristic Shebara Res…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with Iain Ward—known to his millions of followers as The King of Chemo. His motto? "I have cancer, not excuses." Iain is an extreme athlete pushing the limits of human endurance—and time itself. He recently completed The Great World Race, running 7 marathons on 7 continents in just 7 days. Now, he's training for …
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with Kathleen Neves, a self-proclaimed food-motivated hiker, solo backpacker, and backpacking coach for women. The episode centers on embracing solo adventures and using the journey to elevate life off the trail. They discuss Kathleen's experience on the Pacific Crest Trail, the importance of mental preparedness,…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana sit down with veteran location manager Ilt Jones, whose career spans over 30 years. He and his team have masterminded some of Hollywood’s most iconic filming locations, working on blockbuster productions like The Dark Knight, Inception, Iron Man, and the Transformers franchise. But beyond big-budget films, Ilt is an a…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with international dog photographer John Fabiano, who left his corporate 9-to-5 job to travel the world, documenting the unique bond between dogs and humans across different cultures. His journey has taken him from the Land of the Strays in Costa Rica—home to over 1,800 stray dogs—to photographing German Shepherd…
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In their latest episode, Jen and Dyana dive into the benefits and challenges of being spontaneous. They discuss "greenlights," inspired by Matthew McConaughey's book Greenlights, and explore how we can seize opportunities when they are presented to us. They reminisce about moments of spontaneity, including Jen’s experience watching a SpaceX launch …
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Jen and Dyana chat with cyclist Jacob Lemanski, who rode his bicycle 38,000 miles over 999 days, crossing six continents and circling the earth twice. They discuss logistics, his biggest fears, favorite places to cycle, and the mental toll of life on two wheels. Jacob is currently the creator of Ant Space, a company that designs unique psychedelic …
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with professional fly fisherman Ashley White, who shares his journey into fly fishing and how it has profoundly impacted his mental health and personal growth. The conversation delves into the therapeutic nature of the outdoors, the art of fly tying, and the strong sense of community within the fly fishing world.…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana sit down with Chamois Andersen, Senior Field Representative for Defenders of Wildlife, to discuss the essential protocols for encountering some of the most formidable wildlife on U.S. hiking trails, including grizzly bears and mountain lions. Andersen also shares insights into the challenges of protecting endangered s…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with adventure photographer Tommy Corey about his new book, All Humans Outside: Stories of Belonging in Nature. Over the past two years, Tommy traveled across the country, capturing portraits of some of the most adventurous individuals making waves in the outdoor space. Tommy conducted more than two hundred inter…
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In this special on-location episode, Dyana sits down with Robin Greenfield—an environmental activist, adventurer, and speaker passionately dedicated to sustainable living and shining a light on critical environmental and social issues. Known for his bold and unconventional actions, Robin inspires others to embrace eco-friendly and intentional lifes…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana sit down with Greg Mak who is a former United States Navy deep sea diver, and friend of Owen, Jen's husband. Owen makes a special appearance and we get to hear Greg and Owen share about their time in the military together, their deployments, and all about basic training and the missions they've completed in their divi…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana look ahead to 2025 and share five tips for cultivating more adventure in their lives. Whether it’s embarking on a thru-hike, learning a new skill, or starting a business, adventure can be found in many forms. The duo breaks down the steps to embrace more adventure, including topics like shifting your mindset and culti…
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In this special holiday episode, Jen and Dyana reflect on some of their favorite guests from 2024 and share the top six lessons they learned from these discussions—lessons they will carry into the new year and hope to inspire others to embrace as well. Episodes mentioned: Jessie Krebs - Navigating the Wilderness & Essential Skills for Survivalhttps…
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In their latest episode, Jen and Dyana sit down with paraglider Bri Clark, who’s soaring to incredible heights around the world. The conversation dives into the thrilling world of paragliding, covering everything from training and gear to mechanics, costs, and tips for beginners. Bri also shares her experiences competing in hike-and-fly races and e…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana explore the fascinating science behind the mindset of thrill-seekers. They break down the four types of sensation seekers and discuss the psychology of chasing excitement and the exhilarating sensation of truly feeling alive. Jen shares a story about her "wild" honeymoon, while Dyana offers listeners a fun and thought…
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In their latest episode, Jen and Dyana chat with filmmaker and podcast host Chris Ward, whose podcast Like a Bigfoot recently reached 400 episodes. The show fosters a community of adventurers who chase exploration in nature, push personal limits, and achieve feats beyond what they once thought possible. Ward’s documentary, A Long Way from Nowhere, …
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana explore the transformative power of small, consistent habits in enhancing and enriching everyday life. Drawing inspiration from Atomic Habits by James Clear, they delve into strategies for establishing new routines, showing up daily, and embracing consistency over perfection. Dyana also shares a suspenseful story abou…
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In this special storytime episode, Bush and Banter co-host Dyana Carmella dives into the theme of relinquishing control—particularly in moments when it might just save your life. She reads one of her favorite chapters from her book, A Walk Thru Neverland, which chronicles her 74-day adventure on the Pacific Northwest Trail, navigating the rugged la…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with filmmaker and ultra-endurance cyclist Gregg Dunham. After rediscovering his love for cycling at the age of 30, Gregg has overcome the challenges of spina bifida to compete in some of the toughest bikepacking events across the western U.S., including the Colorado Trail Race and the Arizona Trail Race. He is a…
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In their latest episode, Jen and Dyana sit down with solo traveler and marathon trainee Ashlyn Robinson. The conversation dives into the challenges of marathon training, the art of content creation in a world that rewards niches, and the importance of staying true to yourself while finding originality in your work. They also explore the experiences…
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In this Outdoor Quickie, Jen and Dyana dive into the "Rule of Thirds," a concept shared by Olympian runner Alexi Pappas during an interview with Idea Generation. Pappas recalls advice from her coach during her training for the Rio Olympics. After a particularly tough day, when she felt like giving up, her coach reassured her, explaining that in the…
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In this special episode, Jen and Dyana take a deep dive into the life of Retired U.S. Navy Captain Paul Pampuro who served as a submarine commanding officer of the USS Asheville (SSN 758). After 38 years of service, Paul transitioned to thru-hiking, completing iconic trails such as the Appalachian Trail, the Colorado Trail, Machu Picchu, and Kilima…
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In this special episode, Jen and Dyana sit down with Allison Massa, a functional nutritionist, lifestyle practitioner, breathwork facilitator, private chef, and author of The Food Faerie Cookbook. With a BS in biochemistry and molecular biology, Allison is on a mission to educate listeners about the importance of healthy digestion, absorption, and …
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PARENTAL ADVISORY - In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with world traveler, photographer, and artist James Thompson, also known as PartyLikeJZL on social media. With his bold and provocative brand, JZL, James has garnered nearly a million followers across all platforms. He shares some of his wildest travel stories, including a visit to a Russian s…
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In their latest episode, Jen and Dyana reminisce about Dyana’s time at a seven day all-women’s wilderness retreat in Montana, led by Callie Russell, an ancestral-living instructor and contestant on Season 7 of "Alone." Dyana shares the seven key lessons she took away from the retreat that she plans to integrate into her everyday life. Callie also j…
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Grab a drink for this one because Jen and Dyana dive into some deep and thought-provoking discussion on how constant adventure can sometimes lead to disconnection. This episode is inspired by our recent two-time guest, Tyler 'MAC' Fox, who wrote an article on something he calls the interesting-weird divide. We explore what it's like to share with f…
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In their latest Outdoor Quickie, Jen and Dyana dive into a compelling discussion about fear. They explore insights from a conversation between rock climbing legend Alex Honnold and High Performance hosts Jake Humphrey and Damian Hughes, focusing on the question, "When was the last time people faced actual fear?" Jen and Dyana discuss how adventurer…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with long-distance cyclist (among other things) Tyler "Mac" Fox about his recent epic ride along The Tour Divide bike route, spanning from Banff, Alberta, Canada, to the U.S.-Mexico border in New Mexico. Fox completed the grueling 2,665-mile journey in 19 days, 17 hours, and 18 minutes, battling harsh weather, dr…
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Dyana has completed the Colorado Trail and returned to Los Angeles, where she sits down with Jen to chat about the lessons she learned, the gear she’ll never hike without, and the unforgettable experience she had. Catch our Week 1 episode here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2033939/15443096 Catch our Week 2 episode here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/203…
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Dyana has entered the San Juan Mountain Range on the Colorado Trail and sat down to chat with Jen about her ongoing backpacking adventure. Dyana talks about a wild hitch ride, entering the famous and majestic San Juan Mountains, learning how to fly fish, and trying to overcome the feeling of displacement. Dyana also talks about the future of her hi…
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Jen (finally) sat down with Dyana and Jordan who are currently hiking on the Colorado Trail and got the inside scoop as to what they have been up to! There have been understandable challenges, both mental and physical, but also a whole lot of beauty and surprises along the way. Jen asks Dyana and Jordan questions YOU sent in for them, as well as Dy…
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In this unique episode, Jennifer answers all of your burning questions that you asked them (Dy + Jen). There's a mix of adventure questions and some comedy, of course! Dyana is also thru-hiking the Colorado Trail so make sure to go give her some encouragement and stay tuned for our on trail episodes rolling out in the next few weeks! Follow Callie …
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In this very special Outdoor Quickie, which happens to be the last installment of the Colorado Trail Prep series, Jen and Dyana discuss the power of prioritizing and the importance of readjusting your thoughts in order to reach goals. Dyana shares what she needed to prioritize in order to make thru-hiking the Colorado Trail a reality, as well as th…
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In their latest episode, three months in the making, Jen and Dyana dive into an in-depth and informative discussion about their top picks for backpacking gear. From the big three (shelter, pack, and sleep system) to shoes, electronics, accessories, and clothes, the duo breaks down the must-have products that made the cut and they simply can't hike …
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In the third installment of their Colorado Trail Prep series, Jen and Dyana chat with Aaron Owens Mayhew, a registered dietitian and ultralight long-distance backpacker who is the visionary behind Backcountry Foodie. With over 20 years of experience in both the backcountry and the field of nutrition, Aaron is passionate about creating ultralight, n…
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In the second installment of their "Colorado Trail Prep" series, Jen and Dyana chat with firefighter, paramedic, and personal trainer Jordan Sessions. She sheds light on the physical training recommended for a grand adventure like a thru-hike. They also discuss handling mental challenges, adapting to the rhythm of nature, problem-solving, and deali…
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In Part One of our Colorado Trail Prep Series, we chat with professional ultramarathoner, record breaker, and thru-hiker Tara Dower. Inspired by her Appalachian Trail thru-hike, she has dedicated herself to spending as much time in the wilderness as possible. On August 1, 2023, Tara broke the Colorado Trail women’s supported fastest known time (FKT…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana cover current headlining stories about Mount Everest, including new world records and the mountain's biggest mission of all. They also delve into the history that made this mountain legendary, including the first ascent back in the 1950s. Mentioned in the episode: Follow Kami Rita: https://www.instagram.com/kamiritash…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana discuss the recently published 2024 list of the world's most breathtaking hikes. They embark on a virtual journey, exploring the rugged peaks of Alaska's majestic mountains, the vast and mysterious deserts of Egypt, the lush and vibrant wetlands of Florida, and the dramatic cliffsides of Bhutan. The duo offers insight…
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In this location spotlight, Jen interviews Dyana about her top ten places throughout California, featuring unique restaurants, hotels, and adventures. From the coastal town of Carpinteria to Northern California's Shasta County, and from the gold mining regions of Placer County to the Northern Sierra and back down south to the desert, Dyana highligh…
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In this Outdoor Quickie, Jen and Dyana dive deep into the concept of Imposter Syndrome, a pervasive feeling of inadequacy or self-doubt despite evidence of success. Jen opens up about experiencing this sensation while out on the trail, while Dyana shares her own struggles with it in the workplace. Join them as they explore how Imposter Syndrome man…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana chat with Heli Ski Guide and Former Pararescue Specialist, Paul "Bear" Barendregt. After enlisting in the Air Force right out of high school, Bear later joined the Alaska Air National Guard in 2000 and has since emerged as one of the most distinguished and recognizable pararescuemen in Alaska's wilderness rescue commu…
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In this episode, Jen and Dyana embark on a nostalgic journey, reminiscing about their most beloved adventure tales from both the screen and the pages. From classics like "The Goonies" and "Alice in Wonderland" to timeless favorites such as "Hook" and "The Wizard of Oz," the duo dives into the stories that ignited their sense of adventure as adults.…
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Occasionally, hardworking individuals are blessed with the ultimate gift: time off. Whether it's just a day, a week, or even more, it's a precious opportunity. If you've been granted a week off and have a hankering for hiking, this episode is tailor-made for you. In our latest Outdoor Quickie, Jen shares her top three sections of the Pacific Crest …
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In this episode Jen and Dyana chat with Ultra-Runner, Comedian, and Traveler Jeffrey Binney. His journey took a profound turn after the loss of his mother to heart disease. Determined to avoid a similar fate, he embarked on a transformative path, challenging himself by conquering one of the most grueling 100-mile ultramarathons. His inspiring exper…
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