What’s beyond the veil? The nature of this world we live in is unrefined. Yes, we live in this multifaceted world of the SEEN and the UNSEEN. In each episode we go beyond the veil in our own personal unrefined way. Our podcast recipe includes: the supernatural, the strange and unexplained from a biblical perspective, PLUS deep dives into the Word AND a wee bit of the conspiratorial for good measure.
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Alright, y’all, we’re kicking off a wild ride into Operation Paperclip, but you know we ain’t stopping at just the surface-level history. Nope. We’re peeling back the layers to see what was really going on when the U.S. scooped up a bunch of Nazi scientists and gave ‘em shiny new jobs. Was it just about rockets and national security, or was there s…
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Ever wondered if mental illnesses are more than just a chemical imbalance? In this mind-blowing episode, we sit down with retired psychotherapist Jerry Marzinsky, who spent over 40 years working with psychiatric patients—including the criminally insane. He challenges mainstream psychology’s narrative and unveils the shocking patterns he discovered …
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Fringe Benefits: Finding God in Unlikely Places
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1:17:13Brandon and Lindsy welcome Christina from Sasquatch and Sourdough for a lively and thought-provoking conversation about her unique podcast, her faith journey, and her heart for ministering to others. From Bigfoot lore and cryptid mapping to sourdough bread? and spiritual transformation, Christina shares her testimony of how God softened her heart a…
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Hells, Yeah? Exploring Three Christian Views
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1:08:24This episode tackles one of the most debated topics in Christian theology: 𝖍𝖊𝖑𝖑. Brandon, Lindsy, and BT host Steve Gregg, author of Why Hell? Three Christian Views Critically Examined, to explore the traditional, annihilationist, and universal reconciliation perspectives. Steve shares insights from decades of teaching and ministry, diving into bib…
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In this engaging episode, Brandon Spain, Lindsy Waters, and BT Wallace chat with pastor and author Anthony Delgado about his book, The Gospel is Bigger Than You Think. They delve into the deeper, broader meaning of the gospel, challenging oversimplified views and exploring themes of redemption, penal substitutionary atonement, and Christus Victor. …
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In this dynamic Bible study, the hosts delve into Colossians Chapter Two, exploring themes of faith, wisdom, and the nature of Christ. They emphasize the importance of intention in spiritual practices, the supernatural aspects of faith, and the challenge of discerning truth in a world filled with persuasive philosophies. The conversation highlights…
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Ever wondered about Project Blue Beam and its possible connection to drones, UAPs, and the alien deception narrative? Join Brandon, Lindsy, BT and Amy from Eyes on the Right as they unravel the tangled web of g😳v't conspiracy, supernatural elements, and advanced technology. Exploring the implications in the context of UAPs (Unidentified Aerial Phen…
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Taco Bout Sacrifice: Serving God, Not the Flesh
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1:27:58If you’ve ever thought about fasting but felt intimidated, this episode is for you. Fasting can be hard, but is it worth it? This week, we dive deep into the spiritual and physical dynamics of fasting with special guest Vicki Joy, She shares personal breakthroughs, including her incredible healing journey, revelations about dry fasting, and insight…
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Renewal Through The Ages: Shocking Truths About God's Power
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1:00:53Brandon and Lindsy are joined by revivalist and author JD King for an inspiring conversation about the history, power, and future of revival and healing in the Christian faith. JD shares incredible stories of miraculous healings, including a supernatural bone regrowth, and explores the dynamics of God’s work through history, from the tent revivals …
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In this conversation, the hosts explore a method of interactive Bible study, focusing on the book of Colossians. They discuss the importance of emotional connection, the significance of suffering in faith, and the role of prayer and community in spiritual growth. The conversation emphasizes the need for practical applications of biblical teachings …
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Holy Synapse! The Neuroscience of Belief
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1:20:03In this amazing conversation, we welcome Clint Byars, pastor of Forward Church, to explore the fascinating intersections of faith, neuroscience, and quantum physics. Clint shares his dramatic testimony of transformation, including a life-changing encounter with Jesus after a demonic experience. The conversation delves into how spiritual realities a…
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Ever wondered what it’s like to see beyond the physical realm? In this eye-opening episode we dive into the mysterious world of seers—those gifted with the ability to perceive the spiritual realm. Featuring Doug Overmyer, author of Seers See, the discussion unravels real-life accounts of spiritual encounters, offers biblical insights on the seer gi…
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Quantum Faith: How to Align Your Beliefs with God’s Ultimate Purpose
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1:18:23In this episode of Unrefined Podcast, Brandon, Lindsy, and BT sit down with Dr. Robin Braun, author of Living Like a Son and a pioneer in holistic healing and quantum faith. Together, they explore the transformative power of shifting from a slave mentality to a son mentality, healing the father wound, and breaking free from religious programming. D…
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The team dives deep into the eerie mysteries surrounding Death Valley. From the restless spirit of rock star Gram Parsons haunting Joshua Tree to the strange disappearance of a German family in the unforgiving desert, each story reveals layers of intrigue and speculation. Adding to the mystery is the elusive Yucca Man, a Bigfoot-like creature repor…
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Distressed Spirits, Lost Souls: Setting the Dead and the Living Free
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1:19:46In this episode Brandon and guest co-host Matt McGuire explore the intriguing topic of Requiem Healing with guests Michael Mitton and Russ Parker. They discuss the spiritual practice of praying for the dead and how it can bring healing to both the living and those who have passed. Russ shares compelling stories of healing through this practice, inc…
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Hosts explore the eerie and fascinating world of little people with guest Nick Rico, who shares his supernatural experiences from Chile to Wisconsin. Nick discusses his encounters with various races of little people, delving into their cultural significance, spiritual connections, and how they interact with humans. He also touches on related phenom…
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Mounds of Trouble- Where the Supernatural Clusters
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1:10:05In this episode, hosts Brandon Spain, Lindsy Waters, and BT Wallace engage with cryptid researcher Marcus Ellis. They explore the fascinating world of cryptids, including Bigfoot and Dogman, and delve into the supernatural connections that may exist between these creatures and biblical references such as the Nephilim. The conversation highlights th…
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Unlocking the Mechanics of Miracles
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1:08:44Brandon Spain and co-host Lindsy Waters welcome Jonathan Brenneman to discuss his book, The Mechanics of Miracles. They discuss the spiritual dynamics that govern how God's power is released. They emphasize the importance of practice in spiritual gifts, the role of persistence in prayer, and the need for a heart aligned with God's will. The convers…
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Star Power or Mind Control: Inside Celebrity Cults
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1:03:35In this deep dive episode, the team explores the darker side of celebrity culture, focusing on three iconic figures. The hosts break down the cult-like followings that surround these celebrities and analyze the characteristics that define this phenomenon. From occult symbolism, loyalty, charismatic leadership, to insider language and manipulation, …
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When Rules Replace Relationship: Reclaiming the Joy
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1:05:00In this episode, hosts emphasize addressing belief systems causing confusion in the Christian community without demonizing individuals. Kathryn Dockins shares her journey through and out of the Hebrew Roots movement, highlighting the emotional and doctrinal challenges she faced. Hosts contribute insights on cult-like behaviors and the importance of…
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Searching for Significance? How the Fivefold Ministry Can Empower You
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1:01:17Hosts Brandon Spain & Lindsy Waters converse with Neil Cole, a seasoned church planter and author, about his book PRIMAL FIRE. They delve into the fivefold ministry gifts from Ephesians 4—apostles, prophets, evangelists, shepherds, and teachers. Neal shares his transition from traditional pastoral roles to organic church planting, emphasizing disci…
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Navigating the Weird: Embracing Mental Health in a Spiritual World
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1:00:42In this episode we sit down with Dr. Natalie Atwell, a mental health pro, to talk all about the messy but important intersection of mental health and spirituality. Brandon gets real about his own struggles and some of the hurdles the church has when it comes to these issues. Dr. Atwell brings some serious wisdom, highlighting the need to recognize …
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How to Spiritually Adult: When the Wi-Fi Fails but Faith Doesn’t
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1:05:15This is the 💥MUST LISTEN💥 episode, as hosts Brandon Spain, Lindsy Waters and BT Wallace, with guest Vicki Joy Anderson discuss the Christian life, focusing on perseverance, self-discipline, and preparation for future challenges. Vicki Joy emphasizes that resilience is built through small, everyday choices, such as maintaining daily routines and pra…
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Mojave Mysteries: Kenny’s Final Adventure?
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41:54Hosts Brandon, Lindsy and BT delve into the mysterious disappearance of Kenny Veach, an experienced hiker who vanished in the Mojave Desert in 2014. Brandon introduces the case containing the eerie M Cave while emphasizing the importance of evidence. Lindsy recaps Kenny's story, highlighting his discovery of the strange cave and weird messages rece…
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In this episode hosts invite guest Carey Griffel from Genesis Marks The Spot to dive into some fascinating theological topics like "old earth" and the "pre-Adamic race." They explore different ways to interpret biblical texts, especially Genesis, and what these interpretations mean for our understanding of humanity, sin, and the image of God. Carey…
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Exposing the Shadows: Truths About Spiritual Warfare and Hauntings
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1:01:51In this episode hosts engage with guest Patrick Meechan, an author and deliverance minister, about his experiences with hauntings and spiritual warfare as well as sharing first hand knowledge dealing with the darker aspects of the Amish community and the presence of folk magic. Patrick discusses his books, "Nightmare in Holmes County" and "220 5th …
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When Demons Surface: Waging War on the Unseen
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1:01:30Get ready for a chat between your unrefined hosts and Steve Dabbs, a retired military chaplain and author of "When Demons Surface," about the topic of spiritual warfare. Steve opens up about his personal journey and experiences with demonic influences, stressing the importance of understanding spiritual battles. They tackle common misconceptions, l…
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Boo-lieve It or Not: Afterlife Insights
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1:04:28In this episode your hosts delve into the paranormal and afterlife with guest Matt Arnold, editor of the Christian Parapsychologist Journal and author of "The Invisible Dimension: Spirit Beings, Ghosts, and the Afterlife." Matt shares his journey from childhood fascination with ghosts to his work as a Christian minister. He explores biblical perspe…
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Less Pew /More You: Discipleship DIY
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1:04:31In this episode co-hosts Brandon and Lindsy, along with guest Lee Wood, delve into the principles of making disciples and church planting movements. Lee shares his personal testimony, including his redemption through faith after being homeless and joining the military. The discussion emphasizes simplicity, relational honesty, and the balance betwee…
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Return to Laurel Canyon- A Survivors Story
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1:11:44In this episode of the Unrefined Podcast, hosts interview Nancy Bowser, a survivor of programming as a child at Lookout Mountain Air Force Station and Laboratory. Nancy recounts her harrowing experiences with Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) and MKUltra, detailing her programming by her 33rd degree Freemason uncle and the traumatic training she endured. …
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Spiritual Weirdness: When Faith Gets Funky
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1:05:30In this episode Dr. Merrill G Greene discusses his book "The Weirdness of God" and his journey from a conservative Baptist background to exploring altered states of consciousness in the Bible and contemporary charismatic Christianity. Hosts Brandon and Lindsy engage with Dr. Greene on topics such as the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, and the phenomenon …
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Golden Juice: Your Way to Immortality? (No Vampires Needed)
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1:09:45Yep! We made it to 100 episodes! Celebrate with us by taking a screen shot of the episode on your phone AND giving us a shout out on social media and tag @branspain @unrefinedpodcast in your reel/ post/ stories!!! We will give you a shout out back! We want to connect with you guys! Join us in this episode where the crew delves into the intriguing t…
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The Hole Truth: Elbows Deep in Mel’s Hole- Weirdos Welcome
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47:38In this episode, Brandon, Lindsy, and BT delve into the mysterious story of Mel's Hole, a seemingly bottomless pit featured on Coast to Coast with Art Bell. They explore its potential supernatural or interdimensional nature and recount Mel Waters' strange experiences, including military encounters and bizarre experiments. The discussion covers inte…
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Candid Conversation With The Last Evangelist
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57:53In this episode, Brandon and Lindsy sit down with award-winning movie producer David Heavener for a fascinating chat about Hollywood and the world of Christian filmmaking. David opens up about his concerns regarding negative influences creeping into Christian films, which he feels are leading to compromised values and a bigger focus on making money…
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The Owl Moon Lab: Unraveling Cosmic Secrets
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1:17:26In this episode, the hosts Brandon and Lindsy interview Tobe Johnson, author of "The Owl Moon Lab," about his unique perspective on Sasquatch and the supernatural. They explore philosophical and cosmological aspects of Bigfoot, including encounters with strange lights and the psychological effects of these experiences. Tobe shares insights into Big…
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We welcome Dr. Matthew Halsted to discuss his book "It's the End of the World As You Know It." Dr. Halsted shares his philosophical influences, particularly Hans-Georg Gadamer, and critiques popular prophecy interpretations. He explores biblical prophecy beyond mere future predictions, emphasizing context and the role of Jesus. Addressing his book'…
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Apostolic: The Real and The Imitation
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1:12:45Join Brandon and Lindsy as they chat with Doug Levy, an author and pastor, to discuss apostolic ministry and the fivefold gifts within the church. They explore the roles of apostles in laying foundations, the significance of servant leadership, and the importance of integrity and accountability. Emphasizing the need for all five gifts—apostolic, pr…
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Get READY! Lindsy and I are joined by guest MK Davis to explore a series of unexplained events and the supernatural. We delve into the Dyatlov Pass incident, a mysterious occurrence in 1939 involving the Russian army in Finland, and the Yuba Five disappearance in California. We talk about Mississippi connections and tornadoes seemingly attracted to…
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In this podcast episode, biblical studies scholar Matthew McGuire discusses his book "A Magical World: How the Bible Makes Sense of the Supernatural," exploring the intersection of the supernatural, ESP, and Christian beliefs. The hosts, including Brandon, BT, and Lindsy, engage in a deep conversation about spiritual laws, the latent power of the h…
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In this podcast episode, the hosts delve into the enigmatic history of Laurel Canyon, particularly its decline post-Wonderland murders. They explore ley lines, Native American influences, and the area's unique energy. The discussion spans the ritual importance of sacred site orientations across various religions and the cultural impact of burial cu…
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The Gospel Obsession: Making Your Pursuit of God Your Everything
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1:23:15In this podcast episode, Jonathan Brenneman, a missionary in Brazil, shares his spiritual journey from facing childhood spiritual oppression to a transformative healing experience that solidified his faith in God. He discusses his calling as a missionary, his theological struggles, and a pivotal conference that reshaped his understanding of healing…
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In this podcast episode, we explore the deeper sinister forces connections of Laurel Canyon including Charles Manson's life and the infamous Manson family murders. NOTE: This discussion may not be for everyone and we have rated it as *explicit content* Listener discretion is advised. Timestamps: Manson's Influence in California (00:02:32) Time in P…
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What Happens When Theology Meets the Weird?
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1:18:28In this podcast episode,Brandon, Lindsy and Doug (Van Dorn) delve into interpreting the Bible with a supernatural lens, emphasizing the need to understand the original context and author's intent. They discuss the historical grammatical method, the duality of scripture, and the centrality of Christ in biblical interpretation. The conversation also …
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Haunted Canyon: Into The Mountain of Music Madness
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1:19:55In this second episode of "Haunted Canyon," hosts Brandon and Lindsey, along with BT Wallace of Truth & Shadow Podcast, dive into the enigmatic history of Laurel Canyon, Los Angeles. They explore its influential music scene and potential ties to the CIA and military intelligence, discussing how certain musicians may have been covertly propelled to …
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Divine Whispers: Trusting In The Love
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1:09:14In this podcast episode, hosts Brandon and Lindsy, along with guests April and Sandy, explore the concept of God's intimate care in life's details. They discuss the gospel's good news, emphasizing God's presence in everyday moments and His desire for a personal relationship with His people. Personal stories illustrate God's involvement in even the …
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Haunted Canyon: Lights! Camera! Occult!
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1:10:14In this first episode of a series on Haunted Canyon, hosts Brandon, Lindsy, and returning guest host BT, from Truth and Shadow Podcast, delve into the mysterious history of Laurel Canyon, discussing its ties to occultism, government operations, and true crime. The episode also covers Hollywood's early days, the emergence of cults, and the infamous …
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The Inspiring Story of Faith, Family, and Forgiveness
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1:21:36In this impactful episode, Trey Donaldson, a youth pastor, shares his miraculous transformative personal journey and testimony. He discusses his strict religious upbringing, his rebellion and struggles with drugs and alcohol, and his eventual spiritual awakening in jail. Trey's path to healing and restoration includes a shift in theological perspec…
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Listen in as we chat with Amy @eyesontheright about eschatological themes, drawing parallels between modern societal trends and the "days of Noah." We discuss the rapid increase in knowledge, the dangers of occult practices, and the manipulation of DNA and seeds, relating these to biblical prophecies about the end times. Topics include the blending…
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In this episode, we get to have a conversation with Dr. Craig Keener, a scholar with a Ph.D. from Duke University, and discuss miracles and continuationism. He emphasizes the biblical basis for the continuation of spiritual gifts, referencing Acts chapter two and the age between Jesus' first and second coming. Dr. Keener shares personal experiences…
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Unveiling the Tenderness of Jesus: A Journey of Faith and Renewal
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1:05:28In this episode, hosts Brandon and Lindsy engage with Dr. Rob Reimer, discussing his spiritual journey, the tenderness of Jesus, and the sovereignty of God. Dr. Reimer shares his personal testimony, his insights on spiritual renewal, and addresses the problem of evil. He emphasizes the importance of authentic humility and soul care, and the transfo…
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